Why are Mayors/Governors ok with being the police department's bytch?

[Pressure]

Its the culture more than the workers...
Im arguing for competitive market where local contracts are rewarded to the actors who provide the best service.
Our current monopoly approach has no built in incentives for forces to police each other. They get paid whether the next officer discriminates or not.

This makes no sense. Competition isn't the reason why change isn't occurring. It's the shared belief of what the police should be and most of OUR qualms about law enforcement, especially racial, don't affect the majority of citizens.

Aren't the same people still making the decisions in the private model?

No one in the years ive been pushing this has presented a benefit of our current model... cause its complete shyt. Lefties are just terrified of the private sector and taught to reject anything with a profit motive.

Also i believe...

Because you're not even making a salient point to address their issues.

Your entire premise for privatizing police is so you can sue them. We can easily fix that by changing the laws without trying to adhere justice while also balancing profit centered forces.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

This makes no sense. Competition isn't the reason why change isn't occurring. It's the shared belief of what the police should be and most of OUR qualms about law enforcement, especially racial, don't affect the majority of citizens.

Aren't the same people still making the decisions in the private model?


Because you're not even making a salient point to address their issues.

Your entire premise for privatizing police is so you can sue them. We can easily fix that by changing the laws without trying to adhere justice while also balancing profit centered forces.

Plus if the government doesnt respect citizens...what makes you think a private company whose sole goal is to chase profits will?

Private prisons never have issues... nope

 

[Pressure]

Plus if the government doesnt respect citizens...what makes you think a private company whose sole goal is to chase profits will?

Private prisons never have issues... nope

Private prisons are a great example. I'm often intrigued by privatization arguments that aren't strictly financial, but moral.

Here the framework suggests the government isn't an moral actor representative of its own people. Therefore to remedy this we must remove the governments direct involvement in policing.

But if the government is immoral, corrupt, or unethical, how does giving that same body the ability to hire a proxy for its service a solution?

 

[DEAD7]

This makes no sense. Competition isn't the reason why change isn't occurring. It's the shared belief of what the police should be and most of OUR qualms about law enforcement, especially racial, don't affect the majority of citizens.
Aren't the same people still making the decisions in the private model?

Competition prevents poorly run/managed depts from continuing to collect a check from taxpayers.
The threat of losing funding will combat the practice of keeping bad apples.

Because you're not even making a salient point to address their issues.
Your entire premise for privatizing police is so you can sue them. We can easily fix that by changing the laws without trying to adhere justice while also balancing profit centered forces.

No, increased accountability is my point.
Privatizing breaks the model of self regulation, which i thought everyone understood was sub-optimal... and attaches merit to pay.

 

[DEAD7]

Private prisons never have issues... nope

Private prisons are a great example.

Private prisons dont interact with the public in any comparable way... and being behind closed doors i believe enables their abuses.

 

[Spatial Paradox]

Twitter thread that I thought was interesting on this topic. He ends by arguing one thing that needs to happen is the AFL-CIO needs to sever all ties with police unions. They don't show much, if any, solidarity with other unions and certainly not with other public sector unions, so why not?

 

[Pressure]

Private prisons dont interact with the public in any comparable way... and being behind closed doors i believe enables their abuses.

Law enforcement abuses people out in the open as well. That's why we're having this discussion right?



You might on to something. Maybe the solution includes more transparency.

 

[Pressure]

Competition prevents poorly run/managed depts from continuing to collect a check from taxpayers.
The threat of losing funding will combat the practice of keeping bad apples.

This only works if the people in charge are looking for change, but that goes against the entire premise of this article.

Mayors and city managers already have this power and they aren't using it.

So my ask here should be, how do you feel privatizing the police force removes this perceived intimidation. Again, that's assuming we aren't accepting that they're all in it together.

No, increased accountability is my point.
Privatizing breaks the model of self regulation, which i thought everyone understood was sub-optimal... and attaches merit to pay.

Who is self? I'm interested in this track.

 

[DEAD7]

Who is self? I'm interested in this track.

The state regulating and investigating itself when it fukks up... sometimes even from the same office

 

[DEAD7]

So my ask here should be, how do you feel privatizing the police force removes this perceived intimidation. Again, that's assuming we aren't accepting that they're all in it together.

By introducing competing firms, you introduce consumer satisfaction as a meaningful concept. Currently whether we like the current chief and the service his precinct provides means nothing.
Privatizing will also diminishes their power and seemingly untouchable position in politics. Rather than running the risk of being labeled as anti police or accused of attacking law enforcement as a whole you are able to attack [insert company/contractor].
Mayors could run on replacing the current force.



My question is how is the current setup better?