Why are men avoiding marriage?

[futureDevelopment]

Waste money on a big wedding trying to make a female happy brehs

And don't forget to pay thousands for a worthless rock that's not even a precious stone anymore, because it's "tradition"....

Good point about "making a female happy" too. I estimate that at least 98% of weddings happen only because the guy is trying to impress the girl. No man in his right mind wants to get married, let alone have a wedding.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

A lot of these MGTOW types are a hair's breadth away from being alt-right

 

[futureDevelopment]

1. People are highly indivualistic & mistakenly believe that they can get farther in life without a spouse.
2. Men falsely believe that single life is always the better option when statistics show that married men live longer, are healthier & happier than their single counterparts.
3. Men internalize the widely perceived & promoted imbalance of the divorce court system. They don’t realize that the vast majority of them are not in a tax bracket where they would be the victim of any alimony payments at all.
4. Too many people didn’t grow up around healthy marriages, so they are lost when it comes to choosing a partner. This is for women AND men. The people that were exposed to healthy relationships then have to exhaust themselves to teach others healthy boundaries...while having their own learnings to work on (I’m sorry, but this is basically double duty).
5. Too many people believe that child rearing between coparents vs healthy married couples are created equal.

BONUS: Why women aren’t getting married...

1. Women keep giving husband privileges to boyfriends. A boyfriend does not, and will never, deserve the gift of continuing his legacy through your womb. Cohabitation ain’t working in the best interest for women either...but if you must, have a timeline for marriage & stick to it or leave.
2. Women need to learn when to leave a dead end relationship & stop wasting their own damn time.

State sponsored marriage is garbage. I'm glad black people aren't getting married. It's an opportunity for us to redefine "marriage" and "commitment" -- and finally get the state, the rock, and the church out of it.

Many women these days love the idea of "marriage" far more than they love the man they're marrying. That's part of why the institution is dying. Men are waking up to that.

A relationship that doesn't lead to state-sponsored marriage is by no means "dead end". Commitment without "marriage" can work just fine, while "married" couples are killing one another.

Brothers -- stay the course! Just say "NO" to state-sponsored marriage! If our culture is salvageable, cold rejecting backward "traditions" will be a big part of that.

 

[DrDoom]

I got married young (25) to a foreigner. It worked out well and we are still married for 3 reasons. Old school values, roles, and building financially together. I don't think I could've done this with an American black woman.

 

[southern.girl]

State sponsored marriage is garbage. I'm glad black people aren't getting married. It's an opportunity for us to redefine "marriage" and "commitment" -- and finally get the state, the rock, and the church out of it.

Many women these days love the idea of "marriage" far more than they love the man they're marrying. That's part of why the institution is dying. Men are waking up to that.

A relationship that doesn't lead to state-sponsored marriage is by no means "dead end". Commitment without "marriage" can work just fine, while "married" couples are killing one another.

Brothers -- stay the course! Just say "NO" to state-sponsored marriage! If our culture is salvageable, cold rejecting backward "traditions" will be a big part of that.

Ladies, please avoid these types of men at all costs.

 

[Shorty K]

To be real the laws just seem targeted towards making women more prone to divorce and a large number of women seem to want things to stay that way. Why would any man worth something want to marry those kinds of women?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Because Reddit, AlphaMaleStrategies and TheColi.com have convinced them to

 

[Treblemaka]

State sponsored marriage is garbage. I'm glad black people aren't getting married. It's an opportunity for us to redefine "marriage" and "commitment" -- and finally get the state, the rock, and the church out of it.

Many women these days love the idea of "marriage" far more than they love the man they're marrying. That's part of why the institution is dying. Men are waking up to that.

A relationship that doesn't lead to state-sponsored marriage is by no means "dead end". Commitment without "marriage" can work just fine, while "married" couples are killing one another.

Brothers -- stay the course! Just say "NO" to state-sponsored marriage! If our culture is salvageable, cold rejecting backward "traditions" will be a big part of that.

Non married couples are actually likely to break up compared to the 50/50 marriage/divorce rate. Not more likely, just likely. If your with a women you guys are more likely to split than stay together when you arent married. Married homes are proven to be more stable and raise healthier, better balanced children.

Choose a good woman, be a good man capable of commanding her respect and things arent as difficult as most of these coli virgins would have you believe


And whose traditions are we rejecting? The tradition of marriage and weddings existed in most tribes in Africa before colonization. Some even believed in monogamy and non of them (to my knowledge) believed in multiple wives without the required financial sustainability.

 

[MikelArteta]

Marriage when done right is beautiful, but people of today are transient and as a man you have much more to lose than a woman.

Seeing your kids every day to now once a week and every other weekend. Child support, vaginamony all because someone may change their mind.

Imagine your work firing you after a decade and you have to pay them every month while they hire someone else to fill your role

 

[Yinny]

1. People are highly indivualistic & mistakenly believe that they can get farther in life without a spouse.
2. Men falsely believe that single life is always the better option when statistics show that married men live longer, are healthier & happier than their single counterparts.
3. Men internalize the widely perceived & promoted imbalance of the divorce court system. They don’t realize that the vast majority of them are not in a tax bracket where they would be the victim of any alimony payments at all.
4. Too many people didn’t grow up around healthy marriages, so they are lost when it comes to choosing a partner. This is for women AND men. The people that were exposed to healthy relationships then have to exhaust themselves to teach others healthy boundaries...while having their own learnings to work on (I’m sorry, but this is basically double duty).
5. Too many people believe that child rearing between coparents vs healthy married couples are created equal.

BONUS: Why women aren’t getting married...

1. Women keep giving husband privileges to boyfriends. A boyfriend does not, and will never, deserve the gift of continuing his legacy through your womb. Cohabitation ain’t working in the best interest for women either...but if you must, have a timeline for marriage & stick to it or leave.
2. Women need to learn when to leave a dead end relationship & stop wasting their own damn time.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Becuz the institution of marriage as we know it is outdated. It’s essentially a business but with women more financially independent than ever it makes the true purpose of marriage irrelevant. A marriage can’t survive on love alone

 

[futureDevelopment]

Ladies, please avoid these types of men at all costs.

1. Reread what I wrote. Is there anything in there that justifies your personal attack? You're just emotional because my ideas threaten your "sacred cow" -- state-sponsored church marriage, and the "validation" that comes with it. I hit a nerve and I'm glad my ideas scare you. Brothers -- that fear is a good sign.

Don't let her drag you down to her "guarantor", her "leverage" -- "the white man" -- to "validate" your love on some idiotic timetable.

The same bureau that "sanctifies" your state-sponsored marriage will rubber stamp your divorce if you come back one month later complaining that her breath stinks in the morning ...So why go to the state in the first place -- when we can use this anti-marriage trend in our culture to kill state-sponsored marriage FOR GOOD, and replace it with commitment in which the woman actually BELIEVES IN YOU, rather than just her "guarantor"?

My brothers, YOU are the "guarantor". If we insist on this kind of thinking in our culture, maybe women will begin to choose the men they fukk more wisely, so that YOU don't end up a target of her genocidal tendencies because of something Dirty dikk Rodney inevitably does to her. However, if we keep indulging them -- especially with shyt like church marriage (even though we KNOW the church is ratchet)... diamonds (even though we KNOW they're a scam)... and state-sponsored marriage (even though we KNOW it's a TRAP), things are NEVER going to get better for our culture.

2. "Ladies, please avoid these types of men at all costs"? Trust me, they won't. I'm tall, well-spoken, athletic, good looking and professional. If push comes to shove, I could just LIE to them, tapping into that "cinderella complex" to get way up in that ass -- but I don't even have to do that. Some women are actually attracted to and respect men of ideas, instead of those who just go along with the dusty ol' program (which, of course, has been working so well for the black community ).

3. My black brothers -- I know I don't have to tell you this but -- please avoid these types of WOMEN at all costs. She gets emotional and throws a personal attack because I posted ideas she disagrees with, instead of simply explaining the basis of her disagreement... Yes indeed -- please avoid this type of woman at all costs. Her ways won't work well in a relationship. Everyone but her knows this to be true.

I guess she feels "entitled" to never have her ideas challenged. lol -- This is the woman who wants you to marry her, on a timetable yet.

 

[goatmane]

Becuz the institution of marriage as we know it is outdated. It’s essentially a business but with women more financially independent than ever it makes the true purpose of marriage irrelevant. A marriage can’t survive on love alone

facts. the thread title should be "Why don't women lower their standards". You telling me some of these MGTOW guys in their 20s and 30s who havent had sex in years wouldn't wife a bytch up ASAP? Men will do whatever it takes to get puzzy.



back in the day, women didnt have their own money and were shamed by family and society for not having a husband, being a single mother, being a hoe, etc. They were practically socially forced into marriage

in 2018, none of those things are a stigma anymore.

 

[KingJudah2]

1. People are highly indivualistic & mistakenly believe that they can get farther in life without a spouse.
2. Men falsely believe that single life is always the better option when statistics show that married men live longer, are healthier & happier than their single counterparts.
3. Men internalize the widely perceived & promoted imbalance of the divorce court system. They don’t realize that the vast majority of them are not in a tax bracket where they would be the victim of any alimony payments at all.
4. Too many people didn’t grow up around healthy marriages, so they are lost when it comes to choosing a partner. This is for women AND men. The people that were exposed to healthy relationships then have to exhaust themselves to teach others healthy boundaries...while having their own learnings to work on (I’m sorry, but this is basically double duty).
5. Too many people believe that child rearing between coparents vs healthy married couples are created equal.

BONUS: Why women aren’t getting married...

1. Women keep giving husband privileges to boyfriends. A boyfriend does not, and will never, deserve the gift of continuing his legacy through your womb. Cohabitation ain’t working in the best interest for women either...but if you must, have a timeline for marriage & stick to it or leave.
2. Women need to learn when to leave a dead end relationship & stop wasting their own damn time.

what is a dead end relationship. As if marriage is always the goal and not a good relationship

 

[KingJudah2]

You have to actually TALK TO WOMEN to even get the chance to marry one in the first place and that involves going outside.....which most of these 'men' don't do.

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- A nikka who lost all his money in a divorce