Why are men expected to provide and protect?

[Prynce]

reminder that there is no one "African" concept..... there are many different cultures there lol

Not the point

Western thought isn't made with us as the protagonist, so why mimic it?

 

[Prynce]

Then don’t expect to lead your household either.

Y’all dudes love to talk about the emasculation of black men, but y’all seem to have no issue with feminizing yourselves.

How are we feminzing ourselves?

Why is our masculinity defined in relation to what we do for women?

 

[invalid]

I mean in africa our concepts of family and love were so different than what we do now. Maybe its why we maybe fail at it so much

What do you mean by this? Because, for instance, it appears West Africans don’t have the issues that we have.

Our problem is the systemic fracturing of the black family under a system of white supremacy.

Our issues come as a result of the behaviors that had to be adapted as a result of that fracturing.

 

[MaxPain]

This also gives me a concept for a thread.

Why do black people try to mimic European morality, standards and ethics?

Especially when western style of thought is inherently racist towards and makes it impossible to live up to it.

I mean in africa our concepts of family and love were so different than what we do now. Maybe its why we maybe fail at it so much

That’s a thread in itself

Africans looked at females in power a lot differently than modern day European/Western ideals

Ofcourse I’d go on about how a lot of women were in power and leaders and get dapped up by females

But once I speak on how the men had multiple women they wouldnt like it lol

U get the picture

 

[PL368Z]

Good thinking warya,that whole provider shyt might have worked in the 40s and 50s but now a days if you're not marying a wife that makes as much as you preferably more you're setting yourself and childeren up for failure.

 

[Prynce]

What do you mean by this? Because, for instance, it appears West Africans don’t have the issues that we have.

Our problem is the systemic fracturing of the black family under a system of white supremacy.

Our issues come as a result of the behaviors that had to be adapted as a result of that fracturing.

I mean how we western ideas warped our view of women and how our family units function

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

Not the point

Western thought isn't made with us as the protagonist, so mimic it?

no that's exactly the point....it's literally not even a "western" thing because some african tribes have always had the tradition of the man being the provider and protector. so my point is when you speak on it, don't see it as africa as a whole but more on a tribe by tribe basis

 

[Prynce]

Good thinking warya,that whole provider shyt might have worked in the 40s and 50s but now a days if you're not marying a wife that makes as much as you preferably more you're setting you're self and childeren up for failure.

I believe men should date exclusively women on their levels or above it financially

That hypergamy shyt is hustling backwards

 

[Prynce]

no that's exactly the point....it's literally not even a "western" thing because some african tribes have always had the tradition of the man being the provider and protector. so my point is when you speak on it, don't see it as africa as a whole but more on a tribe by tribe basis

I get what you're saying, my bad

 

[Uitomy]

A silverback doesn't hunt to feed his woman no does he protect her or the kids outside of keep his spot as silver back

Breh the silver back literally defends the females, that is provisions
These nikkas live in nature protection is all the provisions they need, you expect animals to pay for bytches or some shyt? Lmao

 

[Prynce]

Breh the silver back literally defends the females, that is provisions
These nikkas live in nature protection is all the provisions they need, you expect animals to pay for bytches or some shyt? Lmao

He protects his position lmao

 

[Panther]

I honestly feel like that way of thinking is outdated.

I have no desire to spend my money or put my life at risk for some woman

in the context of having a wife and kids why wouldn't you want to protect and provide

 

[southern.girl]

How are we feminzing ourselves?

Why is our masculinity defined in relation to what we do for women?

There’s nothing more masculine than a man who protects & provides for his family.

I don’t know how else to view masculinity. But I do know, if a man expects a woman to take care of him, or is comfortable with a woman taking care of him, I (personally) no longer view him as a man. He’s become an overgrown child.

 

[Ashley Banks]

I honestly feel like that way of thinking is outdated.

I have no desire to spend my money or put my life at risk for some woman

So your 8 months pregnant wife is waddling to the car and someone runs up to her and tries to cut the baby out of her stomach, you gonna be like “not risking my life protecting some woman” and run the other way?

 

[Prynce]

There’s nothing more masculine than a man who protects & provides for his family.

I don’t know how else to view masculinity. But I do know, if a man expects a woman to take care of him, or is comfortable with a woman taking care of him, I (personally) no longer view him as a man. He’s become an overgrown child.

That's now what masculinity is to me

Growing up for me it was being strong and being in competition with other men.
It was about trying to be the best and out do

I never met a man who in my life who measured his masculinity amongst men in what he did for his woman. That's his business

My ideal of masculinity isn't being a family man