Why Are Men Who Claim "Good/Nice" Hated Sohh?

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Where did I say that there are only nice guys and players? That came out of your mouth not mine.

They are men who are relationship material and there are men who arent. Thats what I say.

What I did say is that your ripping into nice guys for not taking risks yet you say nothing that would prevent a girl from getting played.

Well now that I hear that your married I see why your so defiant.

You think that just because it went right for you it would go right for everybody else lol.

Miss you have not said how players are losing. I need a reason not a "oh no players arent winning"

Because the reasons I gave are credible. Especially when players have the most confidence around, players approach women and players can use the women they are cheating on to get more women.

I can see you setting up your single female friends to get played.

Lol @ you thinking that I really think Im owed something for being a decent normal person rather than putting in work and earning something.

No I dont think that. What I do think is that women walk right into the players trap and this whole I hate nice guys cuz they are too shy shyt you and countless women are doing just help players win.

Also no I do not fail. Yea Im a nice guy but Im only nice to the worthy. My confidence is also through the roof.

Whatever girl goes with me next will be blessed with a good and faithful man unlike the many women who hate nice guys and will most likely end up with a player and go through hell..

Lol. Lets count the ways you don't make sense.

You never said there aren't only nice guys and players. But those are the only 2 kinds of guys you have been talking about this whole thread, which means that's the way you see dudes. Either a player or a nice guy, no variations or in betweens.

"Players" dont "win" because dating is not a "game" to be "played". It's a real thing with real people and real emotions and real consequences.

You claim you "don't fail" and have "confidence through the roof", but here you are writing novels crying about "women walking into players traps". If you are doing your thing, why are you so aggy about another man's success? I hate the nice guy thing because I hate to see dudes emasculate themselves and wallow in self pity and jealousy. I'm trying to help nikkas. You are trying to shame nikkas w/more success than you. Thats. Not. Wavy.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yea I used to be a beta nice guy until I learned how to only be nice to those who deserve my niceness and not get pushed around.

Do u bring anything to the table other than "niceness" tho

Not even talking materially... just personality wise

Thats the real question

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

These "nice guys" need to understand and ACCEPT this important rule when dealing with women: Treat them like shyt and they will stick to you like mud. Any guy that has acted in accordance to this rule has been highly successful with women and lets not pretend that this is not prevalent. So, be a total a$$hole instead of being nice or even respectful (there is a difference) and you will be winning in the game.

lol, one of my best friends is one of the top proponents of this shyt.( He's Jamaican of course) I've seen it work well for em, but its hit or miss cuz he's shameless, arrogant, aggressive, and literally says whatever comes to mind so I seen some chicks get turned off by it. But when it works, she's dtf within the hour at best and the next night at worse....

I don't know if I got it in me to be that brazen, but I've seen the success of the method.

 

[Blackout]

Lol. Lets count the ways you don't make sense.

You never said there aren't only nice guys and players. But those are the only 2 kinds of guys you have been talking about this whole thread, which means that's the way you see dudes. Either a player or a nice guy, no variations or in betweens.

"Players" dont "win" because dating is not a "game" to be "played". It's a real thing with real people and real emotions and real consequences.

You claim you "don't fail" and have "confidence through the roof", but here you are writing novels crying about "women walking into players traps". If you are doing your thing, why are you so aggy about another man's success? I hate the nice guy thing because I hate to see dudes emasculate themselves and wallow in self pity and jealousy. I'm trying to help nikkas. You are trying to shame nikkas w/more success than you. Thats. Not. Wavy.

No. just because Im talking about nice guys and players that doesnt mean thats the way I see dudes. Dont put words in my mouth lol.

Players win because they get rewarded with women and access to sex for being a player.

There is no crying here. I am only saying the truth. You are simply imagining these feelings that you think I have when Im only doing this because I felt like randomly helping women who are susceptible to players.

It sounds like your mad at me for trying to help women not get played. Why is that?

Do u bring anything to the table other than "niceness" tho

Not even talking materially... just personality wise

Thats the real question

Miss one thing I have above all else is a good and friendly personality.

 

[Kenny West]

lol, one of my best friends is one of the top proponents of this shyt.( He's Jamaican of course) I've seen it work well for em, but its hit or miss cuz he's shameless, arrogant, aggressive, and literally says whatever comes to mind so I seen some chicks get turned off by it. But when it works, she's dtf within the hour at best and the next night at worse....

I don't know if I got it in me to be that brazen, but I've seen the success of the method.

he's filtering out the yes girls from the no's and maybe's. does he approach alot? .

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

he's filtering out the yes girls from the no's and maybe's. does he approach alot? .

lol, hell yeah he does. I know lots of dudes that just blindly approach, but his shyt takes the cake. It's like watching a lion hunt a gazelle the way he act dude just swoops in, talks shyt, and usually succeeds but I've seen it turn sour on some occasions cuz he got no filter. Its kinda funny when you see it or hear the stories, these broads truly love arrogant men its quite a revelation.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

No. just because Im talking about nice guys and players that doesnt mean thats the way I see dudes. Dont put words in my mouth lol.

Players win because they get rewarded with women and access to sex for being a player.

There is no crying here. I am only saying the truth. You are simply imagining these feelings that you think I have when Im only doing this because I felt like randomly helping women who are susceptible to players.

It sounds like your mad at me for trying to help women not get played. Why is that?

Lol. Players don't get "rewarded" for "being players". U cant just wake up one day and say 'im a player' and all of a sudden have women at your feet. shyt doesn't work like that. U really have no idea how women/dating work. How old are you fam?

And lol @ the idea that all "players" "play women". What does that mean? U do realize not every chick wants a relationship, and many are cool w/shyt just being casual and open, right? U do realize "players" don't have to manipulate or lie to get the results with women they want, right? U on some good and evil knight in shining armor bullshyt

Miss one thing I have above all else is a good and friendly personality.

1, Im a dude fam. U never watched the show Martin? 2, a "good and friendly personality" is not something worth bragging about or something that is hard to find. There are "players" with "good and friendly personalities", but also, good senses of humor, charisma, legit confidence, broad perspectives, intelligence, etc etc. And they don't have to wear these things on their sleeve like a "nice guy". U sound like a nikka bragging about having 10 toes and fingers. "I can type mad fast ma"

 

[Jason B]

@2Quik4UHoes: It is crazy how being that a$$hole who disregards decency is highly desired by females but it is not a surprise since women in general love unsavory, fukked up dudes anyway (look at how women all over the internet and elsewhere are lusting after that Jeremy Meeks dude as he is fits into that mold). So essentially, despite their so-called complaints about those types of men, women encourage such "negative" behavior by being very accepting of them yet they will spew that bullshyt about how they want a generally decent, respectful guy (not nice guy). Hence, any man with sense will look at actions instead of words and become that same a$$hole that women desire greatly because that type of dude is winning. Anybody who says otherwise is totally ignorant or pretending to be so for whatever reason.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

@2Quik4UHoes: It is crazy how being that a$$hole who disregards decency is highly desired by females but it is not a surprise since women in general love unsavory, fukked up dudes anyway (look at how women all over the internet and elsewhere are lusting after that Jeremy Meeks dude as he is fits into that mold). So essentially, despite their so-called complaints about those types of men, women encourage such "negative" behavior by being very accepting of them yet they will spew that bullshyt about how they want a generally decent, respectful guy (not nice guy). Hence, any man with sense will look at actions instead of words and become that same a$$hole that women desire greatly because that type of dude is winning. Anybody who says otherwise is totally ignorant or pretending to be so for whatever reason.

Honestly I can't explain why they like it, I think it just some primal type shyt or something. It really pays to go for yours, I've seen how much chicks love it. Hell, when you do the opposite I've seen how much a woman will hate your guts. Weakness ain't the move at all, so that a$$hole shyt is the antithesis to the weak shyt. You don't have to be an a$$hole, but I'll be damned if I ain't seen the shyt work well. I mean, shawty ends up doing all types of things for dude and he pretty much tosses her once he finds a new chicks. The downside is he got a lot of BMs and they be beefin, so like I said it's a double edged sword.

 

[FTBS]

Women are a$$holes themselves . a$$holes will only respect even bigger a$$holes or true alphas (which are in short supply). All women love to take advantage of a pushover but they don't truly respect them. All that "why can't I find a nice guy?" talk is nothing more than sour grapes after getting ran through. No woman wants a "nice" guy. Women want a man that is charming, rich, attractive, good in bed, ambitious, fun, powerful etc. "Nice guys" are like girls with "a nice personality" or "a lot going for herself".

 

[iBrowse]

Fat chicks shouldn't be in the equation, fat dudes shouldn't eitheer?r. You know what fat and obese means? It means you're dying and you're dying early you're a failed physical specimen because you failed to show restraint in your diet and never exercised, would you date people with cancer?

It's all self-inflicted, it's like dating someone who slits their wrists.

Fat = Will die when he/she turns 40.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Women want a man that is charming, rich, attractive, good in bed, ambitious, fun, powerful etc.

Why is this a bad thing tho....

Seems like the brehs who complain about women want these things... are the dudes who aren't any of these things.

Just like fat ugly women cry about "all men" being shallow and superficial

I mean. It's not like striving to be charming, rich, good in bed, ambitious, fun, powerful etc. are bad things anyway. Men should be looking to be these things just on GP

 

[FTBS]

Why is this a bad thing tho....

Seems like the brehs who complain about women want these things... are the dudes who aren't any of these things.

Just like fat ugly women cry about "all men" being shallow and superficial

I mean. It's not like striving to be charming, rich, good in bed, ambitious, fun, powerful etc. are bad things anyway. Men should be looking to be these things just on GP

Who said it was? Just calling it how it is breh. My point was that women don't truly value "niceness", they value all those things I listed instead. And yes they are just as superficial as men. You were pretty much echoing my point.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Who said it was? Just calling it how it is breh. My point was that women don't truly value "niceness", they value all those things. And yes they are just as superficial as men.

It sounded like that's what you were implying. My bad

But yea, bottom line, brehs should be striving to be better men, instead of shaming other men for being better than them. p*ssy is just a consequence of being "that nikka"...... no amount of "nice guy" crying will ever change that.

 

[FTBS]

It sounded like that's what you were implying. My bad

But yea, bottom line, brehs should be striving to be better men, instead of shaming other men for being better than them. p*ssy is just a consequence of being "that nikka"...... no amount of "nice guy" crying will ever change that.

It's always easier to point the finger at others than to look at yourself and address your own deficiencies. Women do the same shyt "she think she cute ". It's everybody else fault that you don't have anybody but your own. I think the biggest problem we have in the dating game is people not recognizing their own level and either acting accordingly or looking to upgrade themselves. Too many be men and women chasing behind people that are frankly not on their level and getting frustrated when they get treated accordingly.