Why are people saying SD got strongarmed

[Tide Run This]

Raw:
Main Event: Brock, Reigns, Rollins, Balor

Upper Midcard: New Day, KO, Enzo & Cass, Jericho, Rusev, Zayn, Cesaro, The Club

Midcard + Undercard: Sheamus, Titus, Neville, Braun, Darren Young, Golden Truth, Dudleyz, Sin Cara, Shining Stars, Big Show, Mark Henry, Bo, Axel, Swagger

Women: Charlotte, Sasha, Nia, Paige, Dana, Fox, Summer Rae

vs.

SmackDown:
Main Event: Cena, Ambrose, Styles, Orton

Upper Midcard: Bray, Miz, Alpha, Del Rio

Midcard + Undercard: Ryder, Corbin, Crews, Vaudes, Kalisto, Ziggler, Uso's, Rowan, Breezeango, Kane, Mojo, Ascension

Women: Becky, Bliss, Natalya, Naomi, Carmella, Eva Marie


SmackDown! has the far better undercard and midcard. Raw has the larger upper midcard because they have 3 hours to fill and they also have the better women's division but those are really the only discrepancies. Not to mention Brock's not even gonna be there most of the year and he's Raw's top draw. Yeah I would have liked a new "Smackdown Six" but to be fair that was popping cuz of Paul E's booking

That Smackdown upper midcard is tragic and the mid/undercard is stuck with nobodies and stale ass Ziggler/Uso types

The Women Division on Smackdown stronger than that trash ass "midcard" they drafted

 

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That Smackdown upper midcard is tragic and the mid/undercard is stuck with nobodies and stale ass Ziggler/Uso types

The Women Division on Smackdown stronger than that trash ass "midcard" they drafted

And the Raw midcard is any better with Henry, Big Show, Social Outcasts, and Shining Stars running the gamut?

 

[KingBeez]

SD midcard is trash, it's filled with a bunch of wrestlers that either are passed their peak (ziggler, Ryder,del taco, miz) , or not even close to being ready for a push (crews, corbin, mojo). I'll give it to them that their tag teams are really promising, but that's it. Kalisto should be on raw to run the cruiserweight division.

 

[Tide Run This]

And the Raw midcard is any better with Henry, Big Show, Social Outcasts, and Shining Stars running the gamut?

Yeah better than Demon Kane, boring ass Uso's and the trash ass Ascension. Smackdown is struggle all I see is AJ, Cena and Orton who are beyond played and overrated Ambrose. Del Rio,Miz being 5th and 6th on the pecking order is the definition of struggle. Raw's #12 cat >>>> Smackdown's 5th its really not even close

 

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I think the rosters look fine. Raw is slightly stronger in my opinion because of the main event talent but both have lots of garbage in the mid and low card.

They definitely didn't do the split like they did before (a work rate brand and a name value brand).

Honestly, a lot of talent can be salvaged if the talent was booked the right way and if they create compelling stories (ex. Del Rio in Lucha Underground), but I don't trust Vince to really write anything compelling these days.

 

[KingBeez]

Raw is infinitely better because they have the advantage of having tag teams that can stand alone if they need to. If Enzo and cass or new day, even the bubba Ray from the dudleys break up, they can immediately make an impact as a singles competitor, while I can't say the same for the usos, Ascension, and possibly the vaudes

 

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SD midcard is trash, it's filled with a bunch of wrestlers that either are passed their peak (ziggler, Ryder,del taco, miz) , or not even close to being ready for a push (crews, corbin, mojo). I'll give it to them that their tag teams are really promising, but that's it. Kalisto should be on raw to run the cruiserweight division.

So Ziggler, Ryder, Del Rio, and Miz are past their peak but Henry, Big Show, Golden Truth, and Swagger are the epitome of up and coming talent??? Crews, Corbin, and Mojo aren't ready for a push but Braun Strowman and Shining Stars are huh

Let me be clear I'm not saying the rosters are any good, just that they're balanced out in terms of overall talent and how much of 2 or 3 hours of programming you can suffer through. Raw has more volume of talent but it also has 3 hours every week while SD has 2.

Yeah better than Demon Kane, boring ass Uso's and the trash ass Ascension. Smackdown is struggle all I see is AJ, Cena and Orton who are beyond played and overrated Ambrose. Del Rio,Miz being 5th and 6th on the pecking order is the definition of struggle. Raw's #12 cat >>>> Smackdown's 5th its really not even close

Ok breh you go watch Golden Truth and Big Show over Apollo if you want

 

[Tide Run This]

So Ziggler, Ryder, Del Rio, and Miz are past their peak but Henry, Big Show, Golden Truth, and Swagger are the epitome of up and coming talent??? Crews, Corbin, and Mojo aren't ready for a push but Braun Strowman and Shining Stars are huh

Let me be clear I'm not saying the rosters are any good, just that they're balanced out in terms of overall talent and how much of 2 or 3 hours of programming you can suffer through. Raw has more volume of talent but it also has 3 hours every week while SD has 2.



Ok breh you go watch Golden Truth and Big Show over Apollo if you want

I probably won't watch much of either show honestly i'm not sweating much of the shyt going on the booking is ass and the ones that I check for mostly are AJ,KO and RuRu. Smackdown at the top just looks stale as fukk they should've gave them a Zayn or Cesaro type to bolster up the 2nd tier. Orton and Del Rio are change the channel status shyt even as much as I hate Sheamus you still had him in your 3rd tier for Raw that shows how deep Raw is when he was just champ at end of 2015. I really do hope they go all in with Bray Wyatt and I would love to see Crews make the jump.

 

[KingBeez]

So Ziggler, Ryder, Del Rio, and Miz are past their peak but Henry, Big Show, Golden Truth, and Swagger are the epitome of up and coming talent??? Crews, Corbin, and Mojo aren't ready for a push but Braun Strowman and Shining Stars are huh

Let me be clear I'm not saying the rosters are any good, just that they're balanced out in terms of overall talent and how much of 2 or 3 hours of programming you can suffer through. Raw has more volume of talent but it also has 3 hours every week while SD has 2.



Ok breh you go watch Golden Truth and Big Show over Apollo if you want

Raws upper-middle card (I'm including sheamus) > SD entire middle card. Plus raw can break up 1 tag team if they needed to and make midcarders that actually can incite a reaction.

 

[Tide Run This]

Raws upper-middle card > SD entire middle card. Plus raw can break up 1 tag team if they needed to and make midcarders that actually can incite a reaction.

Yeah and they will no longer have the luxury of giving those canned ass pops either for a lot of these nikkas so we'll see how over some of these younger cats really are. I can already see Corbin coming out to plenty of Conway Pops

 

[R=G]

It's not implied people are gonna get bigger pushes, just that others who are MIA on TV right now are gonna have more exposure. So instead of Zayn vs. Jericho in the first hour, that match will be replaced by something like DY vs. Sin Cara. And the hole left by something like a Styles/Cena segment in the second hour is gonna be replaced by Zayn vs. Jericho. You feel me? Who WWE wants to push is on them but they're gonna be forced to book matches for these guys...

You think that but its not proven. What we do know about next week's Raw is that Reigns will get his TIME above anything else..Seth will run his mouth and Stephanie will belittle something or someone to no benefit. Then you'll get clutter and time wasting nonsense for the rest of the 3 hours. They'll give Sasha/Charlotte some time and Balor will get his time..that's about it. It's so easy to see yet people want to act so stupid and blind. I expect that from Cena female fans who don't have a clue but not nyggas who have been watching this $hit for years on end.

 

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Raw is infinitely better because they have the advantage of having tag teams that can stand alone if they need to. If Enzo and cass or new day, even the bubba Ray from the dudleys break up, they can immediately make an impact as a singles competitor, while I can't say the same for the usos, Ascension, and possibly the vaudes

SD midcard is trash, it's filled with a bunch of wrestlers that either are passed their peak (ziggler, Ryder,del taco, miz) , or not even close to being ready for a push (crews, corbin, mojo). I'll give it to them that their tag teams are really promising, but that's it. Kalisto should be on raw to run the cruiserweight division.

That Smackdown upper midcard is tragic and the mid/undercard is stuck with nobodies and stale ass Ziggler/Uso types

The Women Division on Smackdown stronger than that trash ass "midcard" they drafted

During the last split they started that way too then just went back to their old ways. You think because there's less people that everyone is gonna get a fair shot but you have the same people running the show who've been fukking up for years. I don't understand how the outcome will be any different than the past when they give up and join the rosters again but I'm not gonna stop watching so whatever.

WWE doesn't book like that. They have 1 or 2 main programs then everyone else is a midcarder. So by the way the rosters are shaped right now Raw has a much better midcard. Your mid card tier list will be treated like jobbers and enhancement talents like always.

Both midcards are trash breh. But Owens, Zayn, Balor, Cesaro, New Day, Enzo & Cass, Rusev, and Jericho>>>>>>Bray, Del RIo, Miz, Alpha, Ziggler, Crews, Corbin, and Mojo

If they call up guys like Naka, Joe, Roode, Ibushi, and Aries to SD then it will be fine but yeah they got fleeced.

2nd week in a row SD > Raw

This was my point with this thread. The way a WWE wrestling program is structured, they're gonna book lower midcarders and midcarders to fill those 3 hours, and SD is far more sufferable because of this due to the tighter writing of a 2 hour show and a younger and more interesting midcard. You're not gonna get Zayn vs. Cesaro vs. Owens every week, you're gonna see Shining Stars tussle with Dudley Boyz at some point on Raw. Not only that but you don't get extremely drawn out segments to go with matches you don't care about on SD, and also the top Raw guys gotta show up every week while SD can let their guys breathe from time to time.

One thing I'll admit though is that SD is gonna run out of fresh matchups soon while Raw's got a larger reservoir of top guys they can create new rivalries with

 

[StatUS]

2nd week in a row SD > Raw

This was my point with this thread. The way a WWE wrestling program is structured, they're gonna book lower midcarders and midcarders to fill those 3 hours, and SD is far more sufferable because of this due to the tighter writing of a 2 hour show and a younger and more interesting midcard. You're not gonna get Zayn vs. Cesaro vs. Owens every week, you're gonna see Shining Stars tussle with Dudley Boyz at some point on Raw. Not only that but you don't get extremely drawn out segments to go with matches you don't care about on SD, and also the top Raw guys gotta show up every week while SD can let their guys breathe from time to time.

One thing I'll admit though is that SD is gonna run out of fresh matchups soon while Raw's got a larger reservoir of top guys they can create new rivalries with

Based on the midcard right now Cesaro, Rusev, Owens and Enzo and Cass are more over than their Smackdown counterparts. So even with your objective view of show quality the more over programs are on Raw.