Why are predominately black countries mostly poor? in your opinion
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Primordial
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Have you ever taken a Latin American history class?
If Haiti did not have a pool of educated leaders, where was the source of the "brain drain" during the Duvalier regime?
What improves literacy rates based on your theory?
How can impoverished nations without fundamental democratic institutions improve their literacy rates without a leader that is given time to strong-arm and implement policies that can improve said literacy rate?
Let's ignore the obvious factors that destabilize a nation's progress
(like assassinating a leader that can implement the necessary policies to build a prosperous nation)
and go by your theory that solely a certain percentage of literacy equals
for any nation (based on your theory that nikkas just start reading out of nowhere)Let's look at South Korea cuz it proves your point right?
"Statistics demonstrate the success of South Korea's national education programs. In 1945 the adult literacy rate was estimated at 22 percent; by 1970 adult literacy was 87.6 percent, and by the late 1980s various sources estimated it at around 93 percent."
"soon after President Park Chung Hee assumed power in 1961, he put economic development at the centre of his strategy for Korea, and he ensured it by his own will power and resilience to implement his vision."
"Park Chung-Hee was a fanatical egalitarian (Overholt, 2011). He implemented the education-based egalitarianism. He preferred to close the best schools rather than to allow the emergence of a permanent narrow path to elite status. In the long-run,
the consequences of Park’s egalitarianism have been good for economic growth
and democracy. His education-based egalitarianism created a broad educated workforce, which created a broad market that creating a domestic market in maximum possible size. It also created a society where democracy could prosper, because an educated citizenry could understand the issues and an egalitarian middle class society would vote based on widely shared interests"
"Park (whose rule lasted until he was assassinated in 1979) was undoubtedly a nasty piece of work, whose regime did not hesitate to resort to torture and execution. But Park understood that in order to achieve his economic goals, he had to invest in education. By the time of his death, South Korea was economically still poor but had substantially enriched its human capital by having achieved a near 100% literacy rate of both genders. Egypt’s overall literacy rate today stands at a paltry 70%, with males at 80% and females at 60%."
Real shyt. They dont want it in the south. Just waiting for them to start some buffoonery. Same goes for ISIS, all this talk about marching to Baghdad and them Shias are still waiting for them to come thru.
Broke Wave
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Lol @ literacy and capitalism being the keys to power... how literal and businesses minded were the Muslims who crushed Persians who were a major empire for thousands of years?
Axum Ezana
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the establishment will rig the elections and we'll have to votebarack@DEAD7 for a second term
the corruption in hl is ridiculous....
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
the establishment will rig the elections and we'll have to votebarack@DEAD7 for a second term
the corruption in hl is ridiculous....
OCCAMS_RAZOR
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if you even look at Africa right now, the former British colonies are doing much better than the former French / Portugeuse / Belgian colonies. The Brits were just less hardcore in their rapeage and carpet-bagging. However, it's a whole lot of factors that come into play. I for one would like a real answer to this question. Looking forward to reading over everyone's replies.
Have you ever taken a Latin American history class?
If Haiti did not have a pool of educated leaders, where was the source of the "brain drain" during the Duvalier regime?
What improves literacy rates based on your theory?
How can impoverished nations without fundamental democratic institutions improve their literacy rates without a leader that is given time to strong-arm and implement policies that can improve said literacy rate?
Let's ignore the obvious factors that destabilize a nation's progress
(like assassinating a leader that can implement the necessary policies to build a prosperous nation)
and go by your theory that solely a certain percentage of literacy equals
Let's look at South Korea cuz it proves your point right?
"Statistics demonstrate the success of South Korea's national education programs. In 1945 the adult literacy rate was estimated at 22 percent; by 1970 adult literacy was 87.6 percent, and by the late 1980s various sources estimated it at around 93 percent."
"soon after President Park Chung Hee assumed power in 1961, he put economic development at the centre of his strategy for Korea, and he ensured it by his own will power and resilience to implement his vision."
"Park Chung-Hee was a fanatical egalitarian (Overholt, 2011). He implemented the education-based egalitarianism. He preferred to close the best schools rather than to allow the emergence of a permanent narrow path to elite status. In the long-run,
the consequences of Park’s egalitarianism have been good for economic growth
and democracy. His education-based egalitarianism created a broad educated workforce, which created a broad market that creating a domestic market in maximum possible size. It also created a society where democracy could prosper, because an educated citizenry could understand the issues and an egalitarian middle class society would vote based on widely shared interests"
"Park (whose rule lasted until he was assassinated in 1979) was undoubtedly a nasty piece of work, whose regime did not hesitate to resort to torture and execution. But Park understood that in order to achieve his economic goals, he had to invest in education. By the time of his death, South Korea was economically still poor but had substantially enriched its human capital by having achieved a near 100% literacy rate of both genders. Egypt’s overall literacy rate today stands at a paltry 70%, with males at 80% and females at 60%."
Real shyt. They dont want it in the south. Just waiting for them to start some buffoonery. Same goes for ISIS, all this talk about marching to Baghdad and them Shias are still waiting for them to come thru.
Nikka's, don't know their history. The was a point in time when Haiti was a power house and the USA was too scared to go to war with the Haitians.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Have you ever taken a Latin American history class?
If Haiti did not have a pool of educated leaders, where was the source of the "brain drain" during the Duvalier regime?
i was more referring to the leaders after toussaint died, after that haiti had a series of bad leaders
but the same dynamic applies today, its not just about leaders at the top, its about having technocrats to run the bureaucracy, haiti being an essentially illiterate society limited the amount of wealth that could be created in modern economy and it limited the number of peope with the technical knowledge to run a government
what is the point of this question?
education improves literacy, obviously
i dont know
my thesis wasnt on how to improve literacy rates
my thesis is that in the modern economy literacy rates and capitalism are the main determinant of a societies or country's wealth
there are many roads that lead to literacy and capitalism, the country or society has to pick one, and they have to decide if those things are even important, as you can see a lot of black people dont even think literacy and capitalism are important
yeah we should ignore that, because there are many nations that have been destabilized but still are relatively wealthy
and go by your theory that solely a certain percentage of literacy equals
Let's look at South Korea cuz it proves your point right?
"Statistics demonstrate the success of South Korea's national education programs. In 1945 the adult literacy rate was estimated at 22 percent; by 1970 adult literacy was 87.6 percent, and by the late 1980s various sources estimated it at around 93 percent."
"soon after President Park Chung Hee assumed power in 1961, he put economic development at the centre of his strategy for Korea, and he ensured it by his own will power and resilience to implement his vision."
"Park Chung-Hee was a fanatical egalitarian (Overholt, 2011). He implemented the education-based egalitarianism. He preferred to close the best schools rather than to allow the emergence of a permanent narrow path to elite status. In the long-run,
the consequences of Park’s egalitarianism have been good for economic growth
and democracy. His education-based egalitarianism created a broad educated workforce, which created a broad market that creating a domestic market in maximum possible size. It also created a society where democracy could prosper, because an educated citizenry could understand the issues and an egalitarian middle class society would vote based on widely shared interests"
"Park (whose rule lasted until he was assassinated in 1979) was undoubtedly a nasty piece of work, whose regime did not hesitate to resort to torture and execution. But Park understood that in order to achieve his economic goals, he had to invest in education. By the time of his death, South Korea was economically still poor but had substantially enriched its human capital by having achieved a near 100% literacy rate of both genders. Egypt’s overall literacy rate today stands at a paltry 70%, with males at 80% and females at 60%."
why dont you guide me step by step through your logic on what this is suppose to mean, cuz im confused, you just provided evidence for my thesis, countries and societies that focus on literacy and capitalism get rich
south korea is a perfect example of that, it has no resources, it went through a devastating civil war and its technically occupied by a foreign nation, it was colonized and oppressed by japan for 50 years before that, but yet somehow they are an economic powerhouse today
and its because its a society that focuses on literacy and capitalism, countries like korea and japan have a blue print that black nations should follow
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theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
robbie3000 already brought this up before in the thread, and again, the question was asked why are black people poor all over the world, that is what i was answering, i wasnt answering the question why do empires rise and fall
there are some exceptions but if you look at africa and the african diaspora, illiteracy, low levels of education and low levels of capitalism are very consistent characteristics of black populations from africa to brazil to the us
