Why are predominately black countries mostly poor? in your opinion

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Hey here's a good idea! How about you counter the points that I raised about each event/location/individual?
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More than the rest of the world

Proof?


And my point was that you making that reply, which is false, started all the Marxist buzzword post

So you're trying to say that you're not an anti-capitalist?



And I'm asking you why you are bringing that up when the topic was "Africans without banking accounts"

You're asking me why I bring up Bitcoin in a topic of Africans without banking accounts? Are you serious?
 

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a simple google search could help you


So you're trying to say that you're not an anti-capitalist?

if there is no social component? yes




You're asking me why I bring up Bitcoin in a topic of Africans without banking accounts? Are you serious?

yes I'm very serious. You just said how companies like MPesa have not expanding out of East Africa.

Governments forcing citizens to establish accounts will come before bitcoin based mobile wallets
 

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a simple google search could help you

If you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you


if there is no social component? yes

Alright. This is definitely a sign that I can't keep on attempting to have an intelligent convo with you. You've literally just shifted the goal posts...yet again. Wow.




yes I'm very serious. You just said how companies like MPesa have not expanding out of East Africa.

Governments forcing citizens to establish accounts will come before bitcoin based mobile wallets

The Nigerian government isnt' forcing anyone to have an account. The debit card portion is optional.
 

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the catholic church, dozens of kingdoms through europe and during the 1400s is when the modern banking system was developed, which i actually explained to you already


this is my same reaction when you kept repeating some thing about mali-axum-nuba, i still dont get what that means

people don't learn to read and write out of thin air :laff::laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:

exactly, that is why haiti's problem with illiteracy are directly related with the fact that africans were also illiterate

in fact i think i said this in the first or second page, slaves of haiti were illiterate, they got independence killed off the white people, which is fine, accept that "people dont learn how to read and write out of thin air"

so after independence you had an illiterate society and today haiti is still illiterate

like in haiti, the low levels of literacy and low levels of education of black people all over the world can be traced back to the illiteracy in africa pre colonialism
 

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If you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you

You made the claim.


Alright. This is definitely a sign that I can't keep on attempting to have an intelligent convo with you. You've literally just shifted the goal posts...yet again. Wow.

There was no goal post. You came up with a straw man and are mad that I don't cosign the lie you made up




The Nigerian government isnt' forcing anyone to have an account. The debit card portion is optional.

I suspect most will use it :ohhh:
 

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the catholic church, dozens of kingdoms through europe and during the 1400s is when the modern banking system were developed, which i actually explained to you already

I said name institutions and this is what you came back with :russ:




in fact i think i said this in the first or second page, slaves of haiti were illiterate, they got independence killed off the white people, which is fine, accept that "people dont learn how to read and write out of thin air"

so after independence you had an illiterate society and today haiti is still illiterate

like in haiti, the low levels of literacy and low levels of education of black people all over the world can be traced back to the illiteracy in africa pre colonialism

Why Haitians are illiterate is different than How do they become literate and Why has illiteracy continued
 

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I said name institutions and this is what you came back with :russ:

yeah and i repeat the catholic church, the catholic church was one of the strongest institutions in europe, is this news to you?

the unifying force of the catholic church alone accounted for a lot of the strength of europeans, just like islam was a powerful force becuase it united people that may not have normally be united

africa has never had a unifying religion, so the europeans having one religion helped them

on top of that europe had dozens of kingdoms

and the modern financial system began in the 1400's

Why Haitians are illiterate is different than How do they become literate and Why has illiteracy continued

they are all directly related, because like i said, the fact that haiti was an illiterate society meant that the leadership pool and the bureaucrats of haiti were weak and incompetent

and it all can be traced to the illiteracy of africans before the european
 

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yeah and i repeat the catholic church, the catholic church was one of the strongest institutions in europe, is this news to you?

the unifying force of the catholic church alone accounted for a lot of the strength of europeans, just like islam was a powerful force becuase it united people that may not have normally be united

africa has never had a unifying religion, so the europeans having one religion helped them

on top of that europe had dozens of kingdoms

and the modern financial system began in the 1400's

Islam and the mosque existed in Africa breh

Kingdoms aren't institutions, nor were they somehow advanced

Banking is 1 kind of institution so yet again...

Where were all these unique European institutions

they are all directly related, because like i said, the fact that haiti was an illiterate society meant that the leadership pool and the bureaucrats of haiti were weak and incompetent

and it all can be traced to the illiteracy of africans before the european

No it doesn't and no it can't

Lack of institutions and Western policy has more to do with Haitian illiteracy, not cause our ancestors may or may not have read or write
 

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Islam and the mosque existed in Africa breh

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are you retarded, i thought we had already agreed that there was little contact between different regions of africa, are you gonna hit me again with the mali-axum-nuba thing?

yes dumb fuk, some REGIONS of africa converted to islam, the vast majority of africa did not

africa has never had a transregional empire, transregional religion or transregional language, things that all existed in europe

this gave the euroepans an advantage

Kingdoms aren't institutions,

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nor were they somehow advanced

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how were they not advanced if these kingdoms had ships, guns and steel?

its in the book that you lied about reading if you need to know more

Banking is 1 kind of institution so yet again...

yeah its a kind of institution that did not exist in africa and one that required literacy

Where were all these unique European institutions

who said they were unique, the point is they did not exist in africa by the time euroepans came to africa



No it doesn't and no it can't

Lack of institutions and Western policy has more to do with Haitian illiteracy, not cause our ancestors may or may not have read or write

our ancestors not reading has everything to do with haitians being illiterate and it has everything to do with low literacy and low levels of education throughout the african disapora

but now we see your true colors, that basically you think for black people to rise or in this case for haitians to be literate it requires the white man to do something

im saying its haitians (or us) that need to do something

who believes in white supremacy? the person that demands that the great white man come and educate negroes or the person that says us negroes will handle it ourselves?

the difference between you and me is that i dont believe in white supremacy, i have a very clear idea on how and why the European came to power and i have a very clear idea on what black people need to do to counter it

begging white people to stop being mean is not on my list of things we need to do
 
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are you retarded, i thought we had already agreed that there was little contact between different regions of africa

The Catholic Church didn't unite all of Europe. Southern and Eastern Europe are apart of Europe, bro. The Moors, Ottomans and Eastern Orthodox mean anything to you?


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how were they not advanced if these kingdoms had ships, guns and steel?

Africans didn't have ships? Guns means more advanced?

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who said they were unique, the point is they did not exist in africa by the time euroepans came to africa

You have yet to name all these institutions, besides banking, that did not exist in Africa. And banking was obviously not why colonization was succesful.



our ancestors not reading has everything to do with why haitian being illiterate ad it has everything to do with low literacy and low levels of education throughout the african disapora

strawman blah blah im an idiot

:laff::laff::laff::laff::laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:
 

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The Catholic Church didn't unite all of Europe. Southern and Eastern Europe are apart of Europe, bro. The Moors, Ottomans and Eastern Orthodox mean anything to you?

your ignorance is mind boggling

the headquarters of the catholic church is in rome, which is in southern europe

the eastern catholic church is called the orthodox church

what do the moors, who only controlled spain have to do with anything, the catholic church is what united europe against the moors and ottomans

Africans didn't have ships?

no dumb fuk, the africans did not have ships

Guns means more advanced?

yes dumb fuk, guns is more advanced technology than the african had

You have yet to name all these institutions, besides banking, that did not exist in Africa. And banking was obviously not why colonization was succesful.

no i didnt name all the kingdoms of europe, i would think everybody knows them

kingdoms in africa existed but they were weak, and fell like flies to the european

yes actually banking was why colonization was successful, almost all expedition were financed through banks or money that kings borrowed from banks

if you want to know more check out these vids

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-capitalist-creed.248542/


its not a strawman at all, you just are in denial, but african illiteracy still impacts black people today,
 
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