Yes. Crack Era shyt and the lingering effects of it well into the 2000s was a large portion of fukkery people over 36 went through. Some still have Vietnam style flashbacks of pre-gentrification cities when crime was rampant and unchecked.
Why are teenagers Committing so Much Crime?
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Yes. Crack Era shyt and the lingering effects of it well into the 2000s was a large portion of fukkery people over 36 went through. Some still have Vietnam style flashbacks of pre-gentrification cities when crime was rampant and unchecked.
murksiderock
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It isn't skyrocketing:
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You and I are around the same age, if I recall correctly. So when you wanted your license and to hang with your friends, I wanted the same things, except hanging with my friends included stealing cars, dealing drugs, playing with guns and committing robberies and assaults. And I wasn't even among the worst teens I knew...
Most of us were thankfully shielded from juvenile crime, because the reality is most teens then and now and befire our time weren't and aren't criminals. However, there's always been a "behind the curtain" youth criminality. Always...
What you're seeing now, as many have pointed out in this thread, are the engagement that comes with social media and a 24-hour news cycle. These weren't around when we were kids, MySpace and Facebook were in their literal infancy and was a relic compared to what social media is today. And there really wasn't a national row of 24-hour media coverage the way there is today...
The 2010s spurred an evolution of how shyt is covered, that's what you're seeing. The kids today committing these crimes aren't worse than the kids of generations past who did the same. You just have greater access to hearing about it today...
Your right...I completely made that up in my head. Me and the governor of MD.It isn't skyrocketing:
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You and I are around the same age, if I recall correctly. So when you wanted your license and to hang with your friends, I wanted the same things, except hanging with my friends included stealing cars, dealing drugs, playing with guns and committing robberies and assaults. And I wasn't even among the worst teens I knew...
Most of us were thankfully shielded from juvenile crime, because the reality is most teens then and now and befire our time weren't and aren't criminals. However, there's always been a "behind the curtain" youth criminality. Always...
What you're seeing now, as many have pointed out in this thread, are the engagement that comes with social media and a 24-hour news cycle. These weren't around when we were kids, MySpace and Facebook were in their literal infancy and was a relic compared to what social media is today. And there really wasn't a national row of 24-hour media coverage the way there is today...
The 2010s spurred an evolution of how shyt is covered, that's what you're seeing. The kids today committing these crimes aren't worse than the kids of generations past who did the same. You just have greater access to hearing about it today...
Also this:
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District Crime Data at a Glance | mpdc
2025 Year-to-Date Crime Comparison* As of October 24, 2025
mpdc.dc.gov
Juvenile Crime Surges, Reversing Long Decline. 'It's Just Kids Killing ... Juvenile Crime Surges, Reversing Long Decline. ‘It’s Just Kids Killing Kids.’
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Charlotte and NC in general have seen an uptick in juvenile crimes
I've known you to be candid about the topic of crime. A bit surprised to read you going the "kids aren't committing more crimes, it's just being covered more " angle. According to the stats, kids in your old stomping grounds are actually committing more crimes.
Charlotte and NC in general have seen an uptick in juvenile crimes
I've known you to be candid about the topic of crime. A bit surprised to read you going the "kids aren't committing more crimes, it's just being covered more " angle. According to the stats, kids in your old stomping grounds are actually committing more crimes.
...And this...
Juvenile Crime Surges, Reversing Long Decline. 'It's Just Kids Killing ... Juvenile Crime Surges, Reversing Long Decline. ‘It’s Just Kids Killing Kids.’
Juvenile Crime Surges, Reversing Long Decline. 'It's Just Kids Killing ... Juvenile Crime Surges, Reversing Long Decline. ‘It’s Just Kids Killing Kids.’
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murksiderock
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My good sister, only the Baltimore link states there is a rise in youth violence, but the numbers it posted aren't being compared to anything so it's unclear that '23's rise in youth violence is a rise compared to, when? 2022? 2020? 2017? Is this an outlier year, etc...Your right...I completely made that up in my head. Me and the governor of MD.
Also this:
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District Crime Data at a Glance | mpdc
2025 Year-to-Date Crime Comparison* As of October 24, 2025mpdc.dc.gov
Your other two links dont at all state there is a rise in youth crime...
I know you read this paragraph within that link:
For one, it’s only been since Dec. 1, 2019 that state Juvenile Justice officials collected criminal charge data on all North Carolinians 17 and younger. That is when most 16- and 17-year-olds were moved from North Carolina’s adult prosecution system to the more rehabilitative Juvenile Justice system. And, this uptick started during a pandemic that limited access to social services and shuttered schools while gun sales surged.
So when I was arrested and charged with shyt in 2005 and 2006, there was no tracking of youth crime offenses in NC. There was no Juvenile Justice system. You were charged as an adult, any crime you were charged with wasn't analyzed thru the lens of juvenile crime. So we have no way of knowing that Juvenile crime is worse today than it was in the mid-00s...
This absolutely affirms my earlier post that juvenile crime is being covered differently today. And if it's being covered differently in North Carolina than it was even 5 years ago (2018), logic says there's likely other states that are covering it differently than in eras past....
To be fair, I'll say there may be a slight increase because of the fallout of the pandemic but I'm not sure it's so drastic an increase that we can conclusively say teenagers today are more attracted to crime and violence, which is the premise of this thread, right?
Anecdotally, I'm not comparing the stated rise in youth crime to a year or two or three ago, I'm comparing it my teenage youth of nearly 20 years back. As a teenager:
•when I was in 8th grade, so this was 2002-03 school year, I knew a 14/15 year old who had a car on dubs and was making big money as a crack/coke dealer, probably on the level of vets 10 years older than him;
•I knew a guy, on the streets, who was 15 or 16 and stabbed a dude to death at a party and never even got charged with it;
•these articles focus on teenage killers, the list of teenage killers or attempted killers I knew was long. This is before I even go to prison, I'm strictly talking guys I either knew outside or met in county jail in VA and NC---->keep in mind, when I was a teenager they weren't tracking us as juveniles, we were all adults and thrown in adult jails and sent to adult yards:
Guy from Raleigh who got off on two murder charges before he was 18, I was in jail with him; 15 year old who was sent by an older cat to knock off his someone, he ended up with a body; 17 year old homeboy of mine started shooting at a party, never got charged, hit like two people; two of my homeboys (both 16) robbed and paralyzed and delivery driver; 16 year old shot two people at a drug store, one paralyzed, one dead; 15 year old rapist; 17 year old rapist; 16 year old who went to rob a corner store with his boys, had a shootout with the clerk, who killed and injured two of his boys but the 16 year old killed the clerk; 15 and 16 year old kidnapped and tied up a dude over a drug debt, beat him nearly to death; 17 year old who mobbed with older dudes and killed a dude at a party; 17 year old homeboy got sent up on home invasions; a different 17 year old homeboy was a serial robber; I knew a 14 and 15 year old robbing duo; 17 year old gun dealer, somehow this dude had a plug on guns at 17, I met him in county------>
But on the streets I knew a 17 year old gun dealer who had like a white work van and was driving around selling guns out his shyt. He's doing like 50 years now, and both he and the gun dealer I knew in county were both wild popular being young dudes who had it, and they weren't from the same part of town, didn't know each other...
Think about that, I knew TWO teenage gun plugs in little Fayetteville, North Carolina. This was nearly 2 decades ago. More than likely they weren't the only two in the city, they are just who I knew...
And I'm leaving off numerous cats who had robberies and assaults and firearm possessions and I'm forgetting more guys who had shootings and murders. I was three days after my 17th birthday, hit with home invasions, burglaries and stolen cars, by trade I was a weed, crack, lean dealer. My co-d was 16 and an experienced robber fir that age, hit with similar charges, and for two months or so after our arrest I was investigated for a rape, and he was investigated for a murder, in the area that we had been wilding at (neither of us were ever charged). This is after I was kicked outta 10th grade in VA for selling weed on campus...
Four or five of these accounts were in VA but the rest were in Fayetteville NC in the mid-00s and remember, none of these incidents in the mid-00s were recorded as juvenile crime. NC didn't do that. Now think about how many more of these guys I met in prison because North Carolina automatically hit you as an adult...
This is my frame of reference. It isn't everyone's. I get that. But because it's mine I don't see a dramatic rise in youth crime, though I'm sure there's been a little. I just think it's a catchy to characterize shyt as if its outta control...
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murksiderock
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When we were teens wilding out in the 00s we were told the same shyt, that we were outta control compared to the generations that preceded us...........though the cats we were mimicking were from the 90s era that was wild before us...
Ain't none of this shyt knew, and I seriously doubt that there's a massive increase in youth crime. They are monitoring, reporting, and analyzing it differently...
Ain't none of this shyt knew, and I seriously doubt that there's a massive increase in youth crime. They are monitoring, reporting, and analyzing it differently...
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Teenagers are committing LESS crime than the 80's-90's according to the data.....
www.ojjdp.gov
So the 'surge' is just an increase from 2018's historically low crime rates.
Law Enforcement & Youth Crime | Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
Law enforcement agencies are a gateway to the juvenile justice system, and the arrest statistics maintained by law enforcement are the most frequently cited source of information on juvenile crime trends. This section of SBB provides access to detailed statistics on juvenile arrests
www.ojjdp.gov
So the 'surge' is just an increase from 2018's historically low crime rates.
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Here's some good reasons:
The Crack era.. that hurt black families the most
The music is one, kids grew up on Chief Keef, DURK, Reese, and Gucci Mane. Mom probably plays that stuff in front of the kids.
No knowledge of self and no OGs to pull em aside to check em.
The Crack era.. that hurt black families the most
The music is one, kids grew up on Chief Keef, DURK, Reese, and Gucci Mane. Mom probably plays that stuff in front of the kids.
No knowledge of self and no OGs to pull em aside to check em.
Seems the OP didn't bother to read the link she posted...
From the link in the OP:
"Police, prosecutors and community groups attribute much of the youth violence to broad disruptions that started with the pandemic and lockdowns. Schools shut down, depriving students of structure in daily life, as did services for troubled children. Increased stress compounded a swelling mental-health crisis. Social-media conflicts increasingly turned deadly."
"Easier access to firearms for juveniles has also played a role, including the rise of homemade ghost guns and a surge in illegal firearms trafficking. Heightened gang activity was a factor too in some places such as New York City, authorities say."
Crime is slowly declining. The link below is based on data from police chiefs across the country - firsthand information:
"The Major Cities Chiefs Association (MCCA), a professional organization of police executives representing the largest cities in the United States and Canada, has released the figures for the crime rates in the first quarter of 2023, and the results are surprising.
While the current wisdom is that crime is rising, these numbers do not bear that out. While there is a rise in crime in San Francisco, on the whole, crime numbers have dropped in the first three months of this year.
In the United States as a whole, the statistics from 70 of 70 Responding Agencies are the following:
In 2023 the number of homicides was 1,908, as opposed to the first quarter number of homicides in 2022, which was 2,068. In the first three months of 2023, there were 7,540 rapes versus 8,233 in the first three months of 2022. There were 27,105 robberies in the first quarter of 2022 and 29,434 robberies in the first quarter of 2022. Aggravated assaults numbered 71,391 in the first quarter of 2023 as opposed to 73,413 in the first quarter of 2022.
In the city of Los Angeles, the LAPD reports 69 homicides in the FQ of 2023 versus 86 in 2022, 466 rapes in FQ 2023 versus 515 in the FQ of 2022, 1,946 robberies in the FQ of 2023 versus 2,353 in the FQ of 2022, and 4,523 aggravated assaults in the FQ of 2022 versus 4,740 aggravated assaults in the FQ of 2022.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department reports 41 homicides in FQ 2023 and 51 homicides in FQ 2022, 193 rapes in FQ 2023 and 200 in FQ 2022, 872 robberies in FQ 2023 and 914 robberies in FQ 2022, and finally, 2,405 aggravated assaults in FQ 2023 and 2,450 aggravated assaults in FQ 2022.
These numbers are preliminary but seem to show a downward trend rather than an upward trend in significant numbers except in one United States city. Crime has also gone up in Canada."
From the link in the OP:
"Police, prosecutors and community groups attribute much of the youth violence to broad disruptions that started with the pandemic and lockdowns. Schools shut down, depriving students of structure in daily life, as did services for troubled children. Increased stress compounded a swelling mental-health crisis. Social-media conflicts increasingly turned deadly."
"Easier access to firearms for juveniles has also played a role, including the rise of homemade ghost guns and a surge in illegal firearms trafficking. Heightened gang activity was a factor too in some places such as New York City, authorities say."
Crime is slowly declining. The link below is based on data from police chiefs across the country - firsthand information:
"The Major Cities Chiefs Association (MCCA), a professional organization of police executives representing the largest cities in the United States and Canada, has released the figures for the crime rates in the first quarter of 2023, and the results are surprising.
While the current wisdom is that crime is rising, these numbers do not bear that out. While there is a rise in crime in San Francisco, on the whole, crime numbers have dropped in the first three months of this year.
In the United States as a whole, the statistics from 70 of 70 Responding Agencies are the following:
In 2023 the number of homicides was 1,908, as opposed to the first quarter number of homicides in 2022, which was 2,068. In the first three months of 2023, there were 7,540 rapes versus 8,233 in the first three months of 2022. There were 27,105 robberies in the first quarter of 2022 and 29,434 robberies in the first quarter of 2022. Aggravated assaults numbered 71,391 in the first quarter of 2023 as opposed to 73,413 in the first quarter of 2022.
In the city of Los Angeles, the LAPD reports 69 homicides in the FQ of 2023 versus 86 in 2022, 466 rapes in FQ 2023 versus 515 in the FQ of 2022, 1,946 robberies in the FQ of 2023 versus 2,353 in the FQ of 2022, and 4,523 aggravated assaults in the FQ of 2022 versus 4,740 aggravated assaults in the FQ of 2022.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department reports 41 homicides in FQ 2023 and 51 homicides in FQ 2022, 193 rapes in FQ 2023 and 200 in FQ 2022, 872 robberies in FQ 2023 and 914 robberies in FQ 2022, and finally, 2,405 aggravated assaults in FQ 2023 and 2,450 aggravated assaults in FQ 2022.
These numbers are preliminary but seem to show a downward trend rather than an upward trend in significant numbers except in one United States city. Crime has also gone up in Canada."
Major Cities Chiefs Association Announces Crime Statistics For First Quarter 2023 - WestsideToday
Their Statistics Show A Drop In Crime In Most Major Cities In The United States By Dolores Quintana The Major...
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Dameon Farrow
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Never said anything should be ignored. But I understand where I am and the narratives that get pushed on here so we'll just agree to disagree.
Also, @Amestafuu (Emeritus) ....LOL at crime today mostly being crimes of opportunity. Like I said I know where I am and the narratives that get pushed. So that viewpoint doesn't surprise me.
Nothing to lol about.
murksiderock
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Exactly this!Teenagers are committing LESS crime than the 80's-90's according to the data.....
Law Enforcement & Youth Crime | Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
Law enforcement agencies are a gateway to the juvenile justice system, and the arrest statistics maintained by law enforcement are the most frequently cited source of information on juvenile crime trends. This section of SBB provides access to detailed statistics on juvenile arrests
So the 'surge' is just an increase from 2018's historically low crime rates.
I think most people who were running around as kids wouldnt say today's youth are more criminally inclined. I also don't think in general it's dramatically less, either. It's the same shyt era after era...
There's already a news link from NC that proves they are covering youth crime differently than they were in my teenage years, so we know they weren't covering it the same in the 90s, 80s, etc. And you gotta believe NC isn't the only state like this, either...