Why are teenagers Committing so Much Crime?

[murksiderock]

I don't care what anyone says

Social media is fanning the flames.

Seeing crime happening all over and ski mask culture on tik tok or whatever makes it worst

It wasn't broadcasted so easily back in the day

Before, it was just neighborhood beefs in a good city but now little cities tryin to mimic Chi-Raq or some shyt

Social media does fan the flames, I don't disagree with that, I just don't think it creates demonstrably more teenage criminals or incidents of teenage crimes...

A few pages ago I named a number of teenage criminals and incidents I knew of, that was before social media. I could, and can, name more. Before the 2010s Drill Era/ChiRaq culture, we were always looking to emulate what we saw on screen in Menace To Society, or in documentaries like Banging In Little Rock, or with the mystique that gangsters in major cities like New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago had. Obviously social media wasn't around to broadcast current events by the hour in those cities, but the reputations of those cities was well known and documented on screen and thru travel (meeting transplanted street dudes from elsewhere, who we looked up to)...

Again, I've told dudes on here for YEARS, that in North Carolina you weren't regarded as a juvenile if you committed a felony and were at least 15, and if you were under 15, they still had the option to try you as an adult anyway---->I know a brother doing Life for a murder from when he was 14, and I know another brother doing like 40 years for a rape and murder when he was 13...

I've recounted these things for years on here and then the good bro @get these nets a few pages back posts a link from the N&O in Raleigh that explicitly stats that NC didn't track or record crimes committed by juveniles before December 1, 2019. I already knew this of course, because I lived thru it, walked IN the shoes. So when OP and others are in here outraged at youth crime, we're obviously speaking from two separate vantage points---->the ONLY thing new nowadays is a)the 24-hour news cycle thru hundreds of mediums that give instant reaction to current events, and b)social media which gasses people's thirst for attention, and that isn't limited to teens...

If we had social media 2002-06 when I was a teen we'd have been broadcasted, and we'd have been broadcasting our shyt. Same as the brothers in the 90s, 80s, 70s before us. Obviously MySpace and Facebook were invented in like '04 or '05 but they were not even close to what Facebook and other social media is today, most of us running the streets didn't even have that shyt that shyt was completely archaic compared to what it is today...

There weren't all these 24-hour news channels talking about what was going on across the country...

And locally they weren't even reporting most of the shyt that we were doing and getting into, and when it WAS reported, most of those times it wasnt messaged as "teenage" or "juvenile" anything, it was strictly about the crime...

@Bryan Danielson you're older than me and you're an NC native, I don't know how heavily you were involved I'm the streets but I believe you have an awareness of what was happening when you were growing up. What is the difference between what teen criminals were doing when you were young, and what they are doing today, other than the fact that all these platforms exist for us to hear about it, AND the fact that NOW our media is telling us hey, these dudes are kids/juveniles/teenagers more than they documented it in the past?

 

[Wild self]

What lol
There are sports and clubs in high school. And In America you have to drive pass 15 ‘help wanted’ signs to get to the place that you want to rob. Plus, if you got 4 friends taking penitentiary chances for a couple hundred dollars, you can put your heads together and make your own opportunity.

The Post Pandemic world, these jobs are BEGGING for teenagers to work for them. Gen Z in general don't like to work, and the workforce needs them more than ever.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

@Bryan Danielson you're older than me and you're an NC native, I don't know how heavily you were involved I'm the streets but I believe you have an awareness of what was happening when you were growing up. What is the difference between what teen criminals were doing when you were young, and what they are doing today, other than the fact that all these platforms exist for us to hear about it, AND the fact that NOW our media is telling us hey, these dudes are kids/juveniles/teenagers more than they documented it in the past?

So I’ll say this…. Being a teen in the 90s, it just didn’t feel like the first thing niccas that had beef would do is go get a gun and shoot up some shyt.

Now admittedly it was slowing rising… but like Unc from Snowfall, niccas was still down to squabble.

Slightly contradicting myself, Winston was shooting. But that didn’t really feel like too much of the norm (like it is today) and I don’t recall mad mass shootings like that back then

But if feels like the difference now vs back then is I really don’t think nicca can fight like that and niccas is scared of getting ass whoppings + it getting posted on social media (whether the fight or ops clowning and trolling about it on SM) so cats be just quick to shoot.

The current era kids are mentally weaker and can’t take an L.

You said it best, SM fans the fire. Back then no one had to worry bout that, you get your ass whoop, word don’t circulate that rapidly. And if it’s ONSIGH you have the opportunity for that quick rematch (those sometimes a gun would come out rd depending on how bad the first fight was and what it was over) but niccas was warriors.

Also, I think back then we had a stronger understanding/respect of consequences where this current generation severely lacks it and are a lot more impulsive thinking the tougher than they really are

 

[Bryan Danielson]

@murksiderock hopefully that kinda answers your questions. I have a lot of thoughts on that and hard to really articulate that via text. If this was like a face to face convo…. Man I could give you even deeper context with some really deep examples.

Also my street shyt? Man my past is my past and I could’ve easily gone a different direction is GOD for real didn’t do some divine intervention with a few things or change some courses I was going.

Basketball and A&T really changed my life but my fam and a lot of my boys was mad deep in the streets and I witnessed (and learned) so much

 

[murksiderock]

So I’ll say this…. Being a teen in the 90s, it just didn’t feel like the first thing niccas that had beef would do is go get a gun and shoot up some shyt.

Now admittedly it was slowing rising… but like Unc from Snowfall, niccas was still down to squabble.

Slightly contradicting myself, Winston was shooting. But that didn’t really feel like too much of the norm (like it is today) and I don’t recall mad mass shootings like that back then

But if feels like the difference now vs back then is I really don’t think nicca can fight like that and niccas is scared of getting ass whoppings + it getting posted on social media (whether the fight or ops clowning and trolling about it on SM) so cats be just quick to shoot.

The current era kids are mentally weaker and can’t take an L.

You said it best, SM fans the fire. Back then no one had to worry bout that, you get your ass whoop, word don’t circulate that rapidly. And if it’s ONSIGH you have the opportunity for that quick rematch (those sometimes a gun would come out rd depending on how bad the first fight was and what it was over) but niccas was warriors.

Also, I think back then we had a stronger understanding/respect of consequences where this current generation severely lacks it and are a lot more impulsive thinking the tougher than they really are

@murksiderock hopefully that kinda answers your questions. I have a lot of thoughts on that and hard to really articulate that via text. If this was like a face to face convo…. Man I could give you even deeper context with some really deep examples.

Also my street shyt? Man my past is my past and I could’ve easily gone a different direction is GOD for real didn’t do some divine intervention with a few things or change some courses I was going.

Basketball and A&T really changed my life but my fam and a lot of my boys was mad deep in the streets and I witnessed (and learned) so much

Nah I got ya, I appreciate it...

Personally I don't think dudes are quicker to go for the gun today than in the past. Biggie said on "Ready To Die" in like '94 or whenever that dudes didn't wanna fight anymore, they were going for the guns...

There's old interviews and documentaries of Bloods and Crips from the 80s where dudes are saying everybody wanna shoot, they don't wanna fight anymore. That sentiment, that brothers are more inclined to shoot than fight, has been around for a few generations now...

We know kids are still fighting because we see videos uploaded all the time, so for me it's what it is, there's a SENTIMENT that doesn't quite equate reality, that as generations age we automatically place our own youth/era as easier to handle, better than the current era...

My great-aunt, who was born in 1942 (ended up passing in 2016), told me back in 2011 when I was 22, that nothing today is new except the evolution of technology. Paraphrasing, she was like "all this fukking yall doing? Fighting, killing, all the relationship and work drama, all that shyt was going on when I was 22, too". And she's right, shyt just appears to take a different form as each succeeding era has access to more technology than the one prior...

Bruh if we had social media in 2005 we'd have been gassing ourselves too, so would the teenage g's in '95, '85, etc. And it would have been picked up on by the news cycle. We didn't have it so there's this perception that the shyt that was going on today wasn't happening then---->but that isn't the truth...

As far as mass shootings go, most of those aren't committed by kids, there has been a rise in that. The "technical" definition of mass shooting, any shooting with multiple injuries, that was happening, but the general way we think of mass shootings as these huge mass casualty events, yeah that's risen but that isn't mostly committed by teens...

I don't know man. Maybe my hands were too dirty themselves and so were the people I was around, so I don't see the major difference here. But it's a fact, a fact proven by an N&O link upthread, that they weren't covering the shyt we (or preceding eras of guys) were doing the way they are documenting it today...

We were still doing all this shyt though, those of us who were teenage criminals. We were still shooting and killing and robbing and beating and dealing and looting and all that shyt. It was still happening...

 

[The Half-Blood FKA Prince]

Hip hop made them do it

Its way past hip hop at this point. Violence, especially portrayed commited by blk folk, is so ingrained into American culture its practically being sold as a rite of passage.

Factor in poverty, piss poor examples/no home training/lack of accountability at home, easy access to guns, and the sentiment that the courts go easy on children(without blk children having the good common sense and wisdom to understand this does NOT apply at all to blk children, or even lower class white children-at least to the same degree as those from "good" backgrounds. Add drugs/alcohol and bake at 350 degrees and what more or less should we expect to come out of the oven?

The scary part is each generation of parents is passing down their own trash values and morality to the next and the shyt has been snowballing steadily and exponentially. U think these kids today are screwed up, just wait until they get their turn to be mommy or daddy and pass the dysfunction down

Idk if this current armageddon we living through gone stick, but either way short of extreme intervention, society is cooked.

 

[Will Ross]

Teenagers have always been the ones that commit the most crimes. The difference today is teenagers don’t have any real punishment when our generation got all the smoke

 

[Turbulent]

Because the consequences seem less severe when you're a teen.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I stand by what I was saying about today kids!!

I mean WTF???

The utter disrespect!

And I want to go in on her even more but as a black male….. I know how some of y’all get and she’s a black child…. But to me this really has nothing to do with race.

It’s entitlement that so many kids have and it gets worse as they grow older.

She gonna be a monster by the time she gets to middle school if she don’t get checked

 

[Bryan Danielson]

@murksiderock

I honestly think the world or America needs to go back to beating their kids.

I don’t mean Mommy Dearest type abuse from lie the 50s-80s.

But typically spankings in my opinion isn’t abuse and it really puts kids in check to realize there is a difference from Parent to Child. Adult to Kid

 

[Unbothered]

Bad parenting. Sorry to say but, a lot of people shouldn't have children, not because they're undeserving of having children but because they aren't mentally equipped or due to other circumstances (culture, finances, etc) to be a parent, a real one.

The barometer for being considered a good/great parent these days is low. A lot of people think just having a roof over their kids' heads, name-brand clothes, sneakers galore on their back/feet, and food on the table are what make them great parents.

While at the same time letting the streets raise their kids, just letting them roam the streets/block hanging with the wrong kids who are into gangs, drug selling, drug using, drinking, etc type activity as long as they check back in “safe” for the night. Some of these parents used to be the aforementioned growing up which is why their kids follow in the same footstep or the parents simply push them in that direction.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

These kids stupid asl.

I dont gaf tho i carry so fukk around if they want to

 

[dtownreppin214]

Gen Z is nihilistic as fuk.

Sad. This the guy who was a translator in Afghanistan, right? Breh was safer over there.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

Gen Z is nihilistic as fuk.


Sad. This the guy who was a translator in Afghanistan, right? Breh was safer over there.

That's him. The news said that he was driving an extra shift to make his family's rent. The kids who killed that man probably didn't even get enough money to split between them. Just a sad story all around.