Why aren’t libertarians talking about Ferguson?

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Dead7 you think it's a coincidence that some of the best economies in the world are countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands and Germany (and Iceland and Denmark, but they aren't quite at the very top economically like the other five)?

They must be so capitalist, have small government, no healthcare, low taxes, little regulation, no social programs right? Oh wait.....
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Dead7 you think it's a coincidence that some of the best economies in the world are countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands and Germany (and Iceland and Denmark, but they aren't quite at the very top economically like the other five)?

They must be so capitalist, have small government, no healthcare, low taxes, little regulation, no social programs right? Oh wait.....
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Thats a conversation for a different thread.
 

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Thats a conversation for a different thread.
I agree, this is starting to go off topic. My bad.

But just remember those countries next time you want to go on about how great libertarianism is in another thread...just saying...
 

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Very much so, but frankly, we need people from all walks of life to be angered by this. We can worry how they got here later.
In a weird way I understand, sort like other raging issues like immigration reform.....

I'm sure many people now believe something needs to be done after hearing and seeing various instances of abuse.....


And some cases the pure ignorance of the conservative politicans and some democrats only further fuels the flames, of enraged enlightened individuals who can't help but hop on board....
 

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I'm amazed no one said anything about this after the practical martial law implemented in Boston after the marathon bombing.

why do libertarians have to take the baton on this anyways?

Because this situation is not just up their alley, it's what they warned about. Unless their warnings are only for whites and asians. It's easy to talk about hypotheticals; but when you're suddenly at a loss for words -- and actions! -- when the hypothetical becomes reality :ufdup:
 

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the only libertarians that care, and at this point, this is only theoretical, and that is the ideological part (ie reason), a small portion of the fringe conspiratorial types, and maybe some urban 2nd amendment advocates. everybody else essentially understands that they either are cacs or work for cacs. you cant cling hard to "states rights" and the right to discriminate in public without having lots of actual racists and unfortunate uncle ruckus types behind this ideology. not saying those values themselves are a sign that you are racist, but that those values do attract racists for obvious reasons. without it being said, everybody knew why this would not get much sympathy from libertarians in any notable way.

also, many on the libertarian spectrum are not pure in their principles. many actually like it when government and unions are used against people of color. even though cliven feels the feds have no authority over him, he did say that they should be on the border keeping mexicans out. lots of people want to have their cake and eat it too.

Right. We just have to understand anti-black thought as being fundamental to the ideology, and not acting as mere components to it. This helps explain how libertarians are able to carry out the parallel processing of anti-federal leanings being central to their thinking because of "civil liberties", and yet show very little aversion to the historical abuses meted out by local law enforcement. Libertarians to me, just take a more passive aggressive approach with virulent anti-black attitudes.

With libertarians you'll hear softer offshoots of "northern/union aggression" type sentiment as it relates to the civil war, and desegregation, with this idea things should have worked somehow worked out naturally thru some invisible hand/market forces bullsht. Just a way to align and sympathize with southern male male thinking. Simply put, local law enforcement has a deserved historical reputation of suppressing the liberty of black people (even being inextricably connected with the KKK) so they're not a problem in their eyes, but the "federal govt" has a reputation as being way too black friendly, and "anti-white" which inspires their perpetual hostilities.

This helps us make sense of Rand Paul's earlier pro segregation rant a couple of years back. No, you're not pro-business freedoms, you're just anti black. He's tried to make amends by disowning those statements as if he's grown on the idea of race, but Im skeptical. His ant-drug law rants are encouraging, but his performance at that historically black college he spoke at under the auspices of "gop outreach" says to me all this is a cynical effort to attract black votes more than anything. He did the whole "republicans are the party of lincoln/democrats are the party of racism" con, rather than keeping it real and acknowledging that race is a problem with the right, and with his aim being to address those problems. He didnt take the true concerns of black people, and systemic racism, seriously, as to not violate the fundamental spirit of libertarianism and its racist base.
 

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Dead7 you think it's a coincidence that some of the best economies in the world are countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands and Germany (and Iceland and Denmark, but they aren't quite at the very top economically like the other five)?

They must be so capitalist, have small government, no healthcare, low taxes, little regulation, no social programs right? Oh wait.....
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They have small homogenous populations with relatively little habitable land...and live around nations that supplement their need to be entirely autonomous.

Its really and truly not a legit comparison
 

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They have small homogenous populations with relatively little habitable land...and live around nations that supplement their need to be entirely autonomous.

Its really and truly not a legit comparison


Agreed. I don't know why certain people keep bringing them up in that context....
 

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Agreed. I don't know why certain people keep bringing them up in that context....
because they just look at countries and say "oh look at what A is doing compared to B"

shyt is stupid sometimes.

The USA has 300 MILLION People. Thats like the 3rd most populous country :heh:
 
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