Why can't Black politics produce a Black version of Zohran Mamdani?

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because progressive politics appeal largely to pie in the sky people with little real experience.
its why you tend to be progressive when youre school age but it slowly seeps out of your body the more time you spend in the real world around people.

black progressives learn everything from white liberals and attempt to attach that idiology to black life in America...
it doesnt work because it makes the assumption black people trust dominate society enough to give them control

it also assumes black people dont like having their own, having businesses and all the creature comforts our current society provides.
I'm a black progressive 27, with a degree along with a son. What real experience do I lack?
 

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because progressive politics appeal largely to pie in the sky people with little real experience.
its why you tend to be progressive when youre school age but it slowly seeps out of your body the more time you spend in the real world around people.

black progressives learn everything from white liberals and attempt to attach that idiology to black life in America...
it doesnt work because it makes the assumption black people trust dominate society enough to give them control

it also assumes black people dont like having their own, having businesses and all the creature comforts our current society provides.
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because progressive politics appeal largely to pie in the sky people with little real experience.
its why you tend to be progressive when youre school age but it slowly seeps out of your body the more time you spend in the real world around people.

black progressives learn everything from white liberals and attempt to attach that idiology to black life in America...
it doesnt work because it makes the assumption black people trust dominate society enough to give them control

it also assumes black people dont like having their own, having businesses and all the creature comforts our current society provides.

I disagree. I think social democracy or compassionate capitalism are both reasonable and attainable. In terms of how African used to operate it's the closest thing to communalism.

What all of those economic models require is a shared sense of community and proper distribution of tax revenue and government resources. At least enough to make and keep it viable and sustainable.
 

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My guess would be because true black progressives are super pro black (and probably anti Israel, tell the truth about white supremacy, etc)
so they get undermined by the democratic establishment and peter out before becoming anything on the national level

They can make noise probably on the local level, especially as a mayor but a lot of them have to deal with Democratic primaries that are stacked against them in the same way Mamdani did
 

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I disagree. I think social democracy or compassionate capitalism are both reasonable and attainable. In terms of how African used to operate it's the closest thing to communalism.

What all of those economic models require is a shared sense of community and proper distribution of tax revenue and government resources. At least enough to make and keep it viable and sustainable.
were not African..
and no African country has thrived the way they could with a true capitalist system.

Its fun to shyt on the U.S. but look where all the innovation has been coming from the past 100 years or so.

What has Western Europe given to the world since they've turned more socialist?

I think black folks are turning to socialism because we think we cant compete with white folks or Asians...
but I disagree.

We can get right if we change our culture.
 

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were not African..
and no African country has thrived the way they could with a true capitalist system.

Its fun to shyt on the U.S. but look where all the innovation has been coming from the past 100 years or so.

What has Western Europe given to the world since they've turned more socialist?

I think black folks are turning to socialism because we think we cant compete with white folks or Asians...
but I disagree.

We can get right if we change our culture.

Our ancestors are African. That doesn't go away.

No one shytted on the U.S.

Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Finland, and Greenland are all very capitalist, successful countries. And social democracy is why they are so successful.

Recognizing the game is rigged is not thinking you can't compete with other people.

We can get it right, if we stop trying to fit a square in a round hole.
 
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