Why can't Link be black? AKA I was trolled by this article, but its still fukked up:snoop:

[MeachTheMonster]

it's one particular (fictional) race/ethnic group of "humanoid creatures"

Literally EVERYTHING else can change about these people, but the one constant is skin color.

why is that?

Because her blood dictated her position as princess. Her tan was a representation of the person she grew to be. She had to throw the person she grew to be in the bushes in order to fulfil her birthright. I know that's way too deep for a Zelda game, but I think it speaks to the way Nintendo feels about race/sex/class even without them explicitly referencing it.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

We all know why the characters were originally created with white skin.

30 years later, why are y'all defending Nintendo for keeping this legacy alive?

 

[daze23]

Literally EVERYTHING else can change about these people, but the one constant is skin color.

when does link ever really change? he's always a blond elf in green gear. the only real changes he see's have to do with how 'cartoony' or 'realistic' the graphics are trying to be

Because her blood dictated her position as princess. Her tan was a representation of the person she grew to be. She had to throw the person she grew to be in the bushes in order to fulfil her birthright. I know that's way too deep for a Zelda game, but I think it speaks to the way Nintendo feels about race/sex/class even without them explicitly referencing it.

of course royalty dictated by a bloodline has roots in 'classism' and such. it's not really 'too deep' for a Zelda game, because it's pretty much the context of what happened. Tetra wasn't really ready to give up her 'freedom' as a pirate to become royalty

you already admitted you didn't play the game, so how can really hope to understand the context of all this?

 

[PS5 Pro]

it's one particular (fictional) race/ethnic group of "humanoid creatures"
why is that?

I hear ya, but what is that in the sky bruh













































http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svartálfar

In Norse mythology, svartálfar (Old Norse "swarthy elves" or "black elves", singular svartálfr) are beings who dwell in Svartálfaheimr (anglicized as Svartalfheim, "world of black-elves").[1] Both the svartálfar and Svartálfaheimr are primarily attested in the Prose Edda, written in the 13th century by Snorri Sturluson.

So since the 13th century there have been black elves in this "fictional" land
shyt, Black people are the majority on the planet and were even more so back then.
Which leads us back to "why they discriminating"

We all know why the characters were originally created with white skin.

30 years later, why are y'all defending Nintendo for keeping this legacy alive?

I know you know the song, but peep the video for a sec too

 

[Bud Bundy]

Why not. Also why does Link always have to be a male. They keep going through the same theme through all the games but they could change up the story.

 

[daze23]

I hear ya, but what is that in the sky bruh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svartálfar

So since the 13th century there have been black elves in this "fictional" land
shyt, Black people are the majority on the planet and were even more so back then.
Which leads us back to "why they discriminating"


I know you know the song, but peep the video for a sec too

even my conditioning has been conditioned

hey it's a big world out there, and there's plenty of room for people to create their own fantasy fiction and/or video games. that doesn't mean the Zelda series is responsible for covering all bases

 

[Zardoz]

Eh, the race of Nintendo's main characters aren't what bothers me (though people having problems with a villain like Ganon getting darker is interesting). It's the blackfaces.

They "tried" to fix the last one in its Nintendo DS remake.

Spoiler

The Japanese have a sick infatuation with blackfaces and Square and recently Capcom (Mega Man's Oil Man is practically ****** Man) are guilty of this too.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

when does link ever really change? he's always a blond elf in green gear. the only real changes he see's have to do with how 'cartoony' or 'realistic' the graphics are trying to be


of course royalty dictated by a bloodline has roots in 'classism' and such. it's not really 'too deep' for a Zelda game, because it's pretty much the context of what happened. Tetra wasn't really ready to give up her 'freedom' as a pirate to become royalty

you already admitted you didn't play the game, so how can really hope to understand the context of all this?

Link has had brown hair and he's had different color eyes. He's also transformed into multiple different beings. As I said in this mythical world it seems everything is fair game for change except the skin ton of the characters. The one time a new skin tone was introduced it was only to promote classist/sexist ideals.

And this thread prompted me to read up on the story a bit more

even my conditioning has been conditioned

hey it's a big world out there, and there's plenty of room for people to create their own fantasy fiction and/or video games. that doesn't mean the Zelda series is responsible for covering all bases

That's a huge strawman. No one said Zelda is responsible for anything. The question is "why can't link be black"

Why are people actively against the idea? Just bringing it up made people angry, and made them come up with all types of excuses to why it shouldn't happen/doesn't make sense. When we are talking about fictional/mythical characters. None of it makes sense, therefore there is absolutely no reason link can't be black.

 

[PS5 Pro]

even my conditioning has been conditioned

hey it's a big world out there, and there's plenty of room for people to create their own fantasy fiction and/or video games. that doesn't mean the Zelda series is responsible for covering all bases

Depends on how you look at it. They are "conditioning" you to think the way you do. But I enlightened you to the fact that even in fictional mythology they had black people in it. And why wouldn't they, they outnumbered everyone else. Is it Nintendo's job to cover all the "bases" you say?
Well, they have no problem including women, or even gays as they promised in the next version of the game
But black people, that is a conversation that apparently isn't worthy enough to make a big deal

Maybe, just maybe black people have been conditioned so much, that they are been brainwashed to see nothing wrong with it
Word to white jesus

^^^ He sure does look like he'd like a Natty Ice ^^^

The brainwashing tho, let me take it a step further. Because just like how the White man has attempted to turn the name Redskin into a racial slur
Here's a definition that has come way after the 13th century link I posted previously...

General Dark Elf Lore
Dark elves are known for their aggression, deceit, and stealth. They are very brutal and cruel by nature, having little mercy when it comes to cheating, battling, or anything dealing with the life of another being. They have little respect for even their own kind, at times waging war against each other. However, clans are known to band together, to combat invasions and attacks by other races. They do not mix blood with other races. They lurk in dark places and love the shadows. Rarely will they come into the light for needless purposes, but it is not usually believed light will harm or weaken them. Their weakness varies upon legend, and may include excessive heat, rain, nettles, or the blossoms of some plants and trees. Dark elves generally travel in pairs or groups, as their tendencies towards cheating and theft make them targets for retaliation and violence at the hands of other races.

That sound eerily like how the Klan would describe African Americans
I never heard of Elves fukkin let alone being KNOWN FOR CHEATING. Which is how white people view other races (the ignorant white people)

I'm gonna stop for a moment because I have even more shyt (real world) that will have you like

 

[daze23]

That's a huge strawman. No one said Zelda is responsible for anything. The question is "why can't link be black"

Why are people actively against the idea? Just bringing it up made people angry, and made them come up with all types of excuses to why it shouldn't happen/doesn't make sense. When we are talking about fictional/mythical characters. None of it makes sense, therefore there is absolutely no reason link can't be black.

Link could be black just like he could be any number of things. for that matter, "why can't link be black?" is a loaded question

 

[PS5 Pro]

Eh, the race of Nintendo's main characters aren't what bothers me (though people having problems with a villain like Ganon getting darker is interesting). It's the blackfaces.

They "tried" to fix the last one in its Nintendo DS remake.

Spoiler

The Japanese have a sick infatuation with blackfaces and Square and recently Capcom (Mega Man's Oil Man is practically ****** Man) are guilty of this too.

Bruh, I went into this BIG TIME just last year. @CurrencyChase was trying to say I was making it up
Here is the history

Here is the Asian spin on it...

And while "some" of what they do is all well and good. MOST of it is not all good

Really Japan
But what caught my attention on all this, what made me realize these dudes are not laughing WITH US
This..

The Bubble Sisters. If you learn of there backstory, you'll be like
Long story short, Japan society like America and probably most societies (outside of africa) have these bootleg standards
So these 4 girls were deemed "too ugly" to have a music career. They look nothing like that pic above btw.
Here they are

Now lets peep the wiki on these girls...

Bubble Sisters (버블 시스터즈) is a 4 member Korean pop group. Their debut became infamous in the west as on their debut album cover (and it's promotional activities) they were sporting blackface makeup. However, they justified the makeup as being a gimmick after their management agency told them that despite having great powerful voices, they were too ugly and/or fat to success.

So they was like "Oh, they think we neeguhz... well then lets give them what they think of us!!!"
And the rest, is bubble history...

I understand why they did it, but that doesn't make it OKAY. Its basically calling out Japan (well, Korea here)
But then it also says they feel they didn't make it because of how they looked. But if they were Black & UGLY they would appear like the ugly blacks of america who have entertained for centuries

Its that DEEP. Now to bring @daze23 back into the fold. I'd say it is Nintendo's job to make things right in the world. They reach our KIDS so they are basically the first people to establish images in the minds of our youth. If there was a black character in any Zelda game, we wouldn't be having this conversation today

 

[winb83]

Because maybe he is waking up and realizing that every character whether fictional or real, can be black
Why would I expect him to be? What would you expect him to be?
Why the fukk are most characters WHITE. Its a brainwashing bruh
I didn't come to that conclusion as soon as this thread was made, just your reply had me like
You been conditioned to expect everything to be white. From Jesus to Link of Hyrule

You don't find anything odd about that bruh But let a fictional character be black and the outrage is REAL
But ask why Jesus looks like a hippie and its "Why does it matter "

You should watch Hidden Colors bruh, they'll break down what THEY been doing to your psyche

Then go watch The Education of Sonny Carson. Trill negro shyt most of you nikkaz ain't neva heard of

Then when you come back, George Jefferson stroll on deez fools

You realize you're complaining about people of other races not making iconic characters of your race? Instead of asking why an established character can't have their race switched ask why can't a black person create the next Link and make him a black character.

You sound like a Native American asking why Tyler Perry can't make a movie with a mostly Native American cast. Why should he?

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

Ok, so make another Link

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Link could be black just like he could be any number of things. for that matter, "why can't link be black?" is a loaded question

That's the point, he can be any number of things, but soon as you mention black the response is.

that doesn't make sense

You realize you're complaining about people of other races not making iconic characters of your race? Instead of asking why an established character can't have their race switched ask why can't a black person create the next Link and make him a black character.

You sound like a Native American asking why Tyler Perry can't make a movie with a mostly Native American cast. Why should he?

Again with this old strawman shyt. No one is asking any other race to make anything. Black people work on Nintendo games, hell the face of Nintendo is a black man

Nintendo has millions of black customers and supporters.

If a Native American man approached Tyler perry and said" heh I'm a big fan of your work, but I noticed you don't have any native Americans in your stories. Can you give us a presence in your work, we have been big supporters for years" He would not be unreasonable and not one of his brothers would tell him. " Why don't you just make it yourself"

 

[PS5 Pro]

You realize you're complaining about people of other races not making iconic characters of your race? Instead of asking why an established character can't have their race switched ask why can't a black person create the next Link and make him a black character.

You sound like a Native American asking why Tyler Perry can't make a movie with a mostly Native American cast. Why should he?

nikka shut the fukk up
I didn't ask, nor would I ask a racist society to create a black character for me
I'm simply TELLING YOU WHY it is. Instead of learning that, you seem to have caught feelings?
You might as well said "If you don't like it, go back to Africa!"
No, I'll just be more hesitant to spend my money on products that don't respect YOU muhfukka (I do believe you're black... white vibes )

As for black computer programmers. I was gonna go to DigiPen But they wouldn't accept felons
If I have to go thru all that, just to get a black character. What makes you think they would approve of my character? So now I have to make my own company, get my own team. Ok winb, I'll see you in 10yrs if I make it

How about, we talk about it here. Then more people talk about it (You know, like the name Redskins)
Then eventually society realizes there racist ways and makes the changes that are necessary.
Nah, that is too much to ask for right? To shed more light on the hypocrisy of thangs. I'm gonna change the subject for one moment (but its related)

Marijuana is illegal in America. Why is it illegal tho? Here is the definition for why...

The Marihuana Tax Act of 1937

Marijuana was outlawed at the national level in the US by the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937. (Note that the US Government has traditionally used the spelling "marihuana".) There were a number of reasons given for its passage in the congressional testimony. The quotes included:

• Two weeks ago a sex-mad degenerate, named Lee Fernandez, brutally attacked a young Alamosa girl. He was convicted of assault with intent to rape and sentenced to 10 to 14 years in the state penitentiary. Police officers here know definitely that Fernandez was under the influence of marihuana. But this case is one in hundreds of murders, rapes, petty crimes, insanity that has occurred in southern Colorado in recent years.
• I wish I could show you what a small marihuana cigaret can do to one of our degenerate Spanish-speaking residents. That's why our problem is so great; the greatest percentage of our population is composed of Spanish-speaking persons, most of who are low mentally, because of social and racial conditions.
• Did you read of the Drain murder case in Pueblo recently? Marihuana is believed to have been used by one of the bloody murderers.
• . . .a boy and a girl . . . lost their senses so completely after smoking marihuana that they eloped and were married.
• It is commonly used as an aphrodisiac, and its continued use leads to impotency.
• Practically every article written on the effects of the marihuana weed will tell of deeds committed without the knowledge of the culprit, while he was under the influence of this drug. . . . "A man under the influence of marihuana actually decapitated his best friend; and then, coming out of the effects of the drug, was as horrified as anyone over what he had done" (9). Then we have the case of a young boy in Florida. The story runs as follows: "A young boy who had become addicted to smoking marihuana cigarettes, in a fit of frenzy because, as he stated while still under the marihuana influence, a number of people were trying to cut off his arms and legs, seized an axe and killed his father, mother, two brothers and a sister, wiping out the entire family except himself." (10)

From Additional Statement of Harry Anslinger from Transcripts of the Congressional Hearings for the Marihuana Tax Act

And while that is insane enough, congress said more than what is quoted. They included black people, but went into details saying it made white woman want to have sex with black men, mainly musicians.
Its actually written like that in the law books. We are following laws created by racist people to put minorities down. Fast Foward to 2014 and police heavily patrol minority areas to enforce these same laws while routinely letting white people off the hook for the same crimes.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/21/ethnic-minorities-likely-charged-drug-possession

If you live in the DMV? They targeting people of color like we insurgents outchea
But the spanish people around here are pretty clueless to whats REALLY GOOD
I tell them all the time "Yall the new nikkaz"
http://www.helpsavemanassas.org/

And what they probably already passed, the law they was trying to pass via the savemanassas campaign? If you "look like an immigrant" that gives them probable cause to pull you over


Why you think so many people ON THIS SITE call me the worst poster.
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