Why can't more women just be honest with men?

[SeveroDrgnfli]

Dating is a power struggle. It's gets boring after a while. After you get the sex you want it's all down hill. Or up hill. Maybe I'm jaded. There are plenty of good folks in dating. It's up to them to find each other. Lol its fukked up though because timing is everything. Usually one person likes the other more. Its magical and special when both people like each other the same. That honesty and vulnerability creates co dependence which is the soil that allows love to grow. Brian Wilson said it best, "you need good timing, it takes good timing."

When you youngins get to point when you realize most women can't offer you nothing but puzzy, and half the time wack puzzy, then you can put more time into what makes you happy.

Facts. Basically. Grow up and dating is less ruthless.

 

[thewiz]

What's this roster you speak of?

You have one, check your phone contacts

 

[WHIPPEDCream]

You have one, check your phone contacts

There ain't no roster.

 

[Turbulent]

everyone is trying to get what they want out of the game. we all want different things and different intensity. and to make matters even more complex, what we want can shift back and forth over time. the game isn't fair for anyone. the fact it isn't fair for anyone makes it fair for everyone ()

as far as the OP, the girl and the guy don't want the same thing. he wants to hang out. she wants some attention. she gave him answers that would prevent them from hanging out without stopping the attention she would get. OP is asking why she did that. why would she do otherwise? deep down, dude knows she isn't fukking with him like that but is hoping to convince her to change her mind. once you choose to get into that game, you have no one to blame but yourself. while i don't know anyone in the situation, i'd argue that the reason he stopped calling her after the friend told him what it was is because once the friend told, he realized how stupid he's looking to people outside and his ego was crushed. the reason the main girls don't flat out reject guys directly is the same reason guys don't reject girls directly when talking about commitment or cuffing. it's because they don't want to give in but at the same time don't want to lose whatever they're getting out of it. and sometimes it's not even the sex or attention itself. it's just knowing you have a hold on the person. we don't want to lose that hold/power/control (both men and women).

like other people said, no one is too busy to hang out with people they actually want to hang out with.

 

[Neuromancer]

Most women need that cosign

But why?

 

[Surreal]

But why?

Father issues. Never date a woman with father issues

 

[Neuromancer]

Father issues. Never date a woman with father issues

Ok. I'm wondering if one of the brehettes can answer as well.

 

[Turk]

everyone is trying to get what they want out of the game. we all want different things and different intensity. and to make matters even more complex, what we want can shift back and forth over time. the game isn't fair for anyone. the fact it isn't fair for anyone makes it fair for everyone ()

as far as the OP, the girl and the guy don't want the same thing. he wants to hang out. she wants some attention. she gave him answers that would prevent them from hanging out without stopping the attention she would get. OP is asking why she did that. why would she do otherwise? deep down, dude knows she isn't fukking with him like that but is hoping to convince her to change her mind. once you choose to get into that game, you have no one to blame but yourself. while i don't know anyone in the situation, i'd argue that the reason he stopped calling her after the friend told him what it was is because once the friend told, he realized how stupid he's looking to people outside and his ego was crushed. the reason the main girls don't flat out reject guys directly is the same reason guys don't reject girls directly when talking about commitment or cuffing. it's because they don't want to give in but at the same time don't want to lose whatever they're getting out of it. and sometimes it's not even the sex or attention itself. it's just knowing you have a hold on the person. we don't want to lose that hold/power/control (both men and women).

like other people said, no one is too busy to hang out with people they actually want to hang out with.

that's real talk

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

The problem is that you can't just assume every man is out for sex ONLY. And if you're entertaining him, on some level you want sex too.

Hints are fine in some situations.
But when it comes to ending a relationship, there can be no ambiguity.

Explain how telling half truths, lying and ignoring a person is NOT cowardly.
The same women who talk all that good shyt about how they aren't afraid to speak their minds are the ones who can't tell a man that they don't want to pursue anything with him.

It's easy to express yourself when you're angry or upset or don't give a shyt. That type of honesty requires nothing.
But when it comes to rejecting someone who (typically) just isn't a right fit or whatever...then honesty takes a backseat to hints.

And you somehow act like this is doing someone a favor. Or that it's just "all in the game, yo"

I don't agree. But alright. It's all in the game then. I'll take your word if that's how you feel.
Just know that the game goes both ways the next time some Facebook message, Instagram post, or bitter venting girlfriend 4 glasses deep into a Chardonnay shows up at your door.

All in the game, yo.

You wasted your key strokes. No one said it's right but people ain't obligated to act how you see fit. If someone is interested it will show. If it ain't showing its on you to continue to peruse.

 

[Mirin4rmfar]

His fault, I don't court or chase woman. Not in 2016. The only time I will chase a woman if I got something sexual out of it already.

Just like she is stringing guy along, she is on some nikka's roster. She using him for attention because homie aint fukin with her like that because she is on the bench

 

[Mirin4rmfar]

To further add to my point, a lot of woman have a specific type of guy they desire. By courting and doing all the right bullshyt, you are really wasting your time, money and effort. The nikka that she truly wants will not have to go through all the bullshyt and hoopla. Most women don't truly value a guy doing all the right thing to be with them until they are in their late 20's and 30s and that specific type is still not committing to them and treating them right.

I am not saying treat women like crap either, just learn where you stand before you get strung along like that.

 

[Ohene]

Today this girl I'm cool with was telling me about how she kept curving this guy. This dude just wanted to hang out, he didn't even ask for a formal date or anything major. She always came up with bullshyt lies and excuses about how she was busy. But she told me she just wasn't fukking with him like that. She was doing this for a month

Anyways, this nikka asked to hang out this weekend and she lied dead to his face and said she was working. One of her homegirls was there and just flat out told him she was full of shyt and lying. This same chick who was curving ole dude for a month is talking bout she lowkey sad now cuz that nikka won't talk to her anymore.

I was like wtf shorty. You been playing games with this nikka tf do you expect?

She strung this nikka along and pretty much used him to continuously boost her ego while lying to him. The pure pettiness is just

I semi-know ole dude and he seems like a fairly nice person too. I lowkey wanna distance myself from this girl now...shyt is just mad foul to me. I held her in much higher regard than this

You could just tell that nikka the truth instead of wasting his time. This is the kind of shyt that turns nikkas into savages

this is why we become savages breh. you hit the nail on the head.
i'm a savage but know when to turn it off for a girl thats worth it

To further add to my point, a lot of woman have a specific type of guy they desire. By courting and doing all the right bullshyt, you are really wasting your time, money and effort. The nikka that she truly wants will not have to go through all the bullshyt and hoopla. Most women don't truly value a guy doing all the right thing to be with them until they are in their late 20's and 30s and that specific type is still not committing to them and treating them right.

I am not saying treat women like crap either, just learn where you stand before you get strung along like that.

we gotta get in where we fit in breh. well said

 

[Raava]

It's always described by these guys as a 'woman thing'.

Because men never plays games and lie. Such bullshyt.


Never mind that they will have threads about the worse way they treated fat women, the worse thing they did to a woman, how to act lthe thug that you aren't just to get women to like you, or even how they will make a woman think they want more than just a FWB. They dap and rep each other in those threads.

But let women say 'I'm busy' instead of 'I'm not interested'. Then women are evil, liars, etc.

You can't take some of these guys seriously here.

Exactly! I love how they have selective memory. It's multiple threads about how they badly some treat women , how men are supposed to play games and "women don't want the truth" but a woman saying I'm busy is the worst thing ever


Saying I'm busy doesn't equate how far and how long some guys string a woman along and it's far less damaging. At least you dodge a bullet being curved. At some point as adults both parties have responsibility. Actions speak louder than words no matter the gender. There are scumbag men and women.

 

[Ohene]

Exactly! I love how they have selective memory. It's multiple threads about how they badly some treat women , how men are supposed to play games and "women don't want the truth" but a woman saying I'm busy is the worst thing ever


Saying I'm busy doesn't equate how far and how long some guys string a woman along and it's far less damaging. At least you dodge a bullet being curved. At some point as adults both parties have responsibility. Actions speak louder than words no matter the gender. There are scumbag men and women.

Link these threads... In any case it's not in our nature to be passive aggressive or cowardly like women are and that's the thread premise. Like OP said this is why men become savages you speak of. The girl he spoke of is probably treating her like shyt while this dude she dissed would've graced her. so all This other shyt you talking is extracurricular.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

What goes around comes around.