Thought this was pretty thorough video about the problem with capitalism and why a profit driven system cannot solve such a huge problem as climate change
Why Capitalism Cannot and Will Not Solve Climate Change
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OfTheCross
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There's no incentive for them too.
Corporations don't care about the Earth
Corporations don't care about the Earth
Its really an insane system in which we're living under. We're literally flirting with the idea of extinction because we can't as a species overcome the myth of capitalism. I can't even put the entire onus on most corporations because they're simply a manifestation of this capitalist system and operating as intended.
ADevilYouKhow
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What about feudalism?
mc_brew
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DJ Paul's Arm
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I would say human nature is leading us down this road and no matter which system we are in environmental concerns will almost always be secondary. It's in our nature to want progress and to want more regardless of which system we follow.
In a world where every where wants to get rich quick and get more things it is difficult to envision a society where we will look out for each other and put the species as a collective above self or family. We all want the latest phones and the new cars and some of us get new clothes more often than others and most of us waste more than we consume.
The population is increasing at a rapid rate and some would say it is already at an unsustainable level. 2 countries by themselves have billions of citizens that we know of and both are hell bent on progress by any means necessary.
The Europeans talk a good game but as a collective they are extremely hypocritical and play politics behind their guise of ethics and so called morals. For all their "culture" they just seem like a scared bunch afraid of getting left behind.
The amount of mass resources that we waste on completely senseless things simply for posturing and projecting is insane and always has been and there is no reason to believe that we are capable of changing.
Capitalism in my opinion captures the human spirit of greedy progress in its essence whilst being extremely selective globally in regards to which citizens it favours in each nation and which citizens it inhibits.
In simpler words we are fukked.
In a world where every where wants to get rich quick and get more things it is difficult to envision a society where we will look out for each other and put the species as a collective above self or family. We all want the latest phones and the new cars and some of us get new clothes more often than others and most of us waste more than we consume.
The population is increasing at a rapid rate and some would say it is already at an unsustainable level. 2 countries by themselves have billions of citizens that we know of and both are hell bent on progress by any means necessary.
The Europeans talk a good game but as a collective they are extremely hypocritical and play politics behind their guise of ethics and so called morals. For all their "culture" they just seem like a scared bunch afraid of getting left behind.
The amount of mass resources that we waste on completely senseless things simply for posturing and projecting is insane and always has been and there is no reason to believe that we are capable of changing.
Capitalism in my opinion captures the human spirit of greedy progress in its essence whilst being extremely selective globally in regards to which citizens it favours in each nation and which citizens it inhibits.
In simpler words we are fukked.
Well to be honest when the earth changes it's climate ain't shyt you can do about it, this world used to have volcanos that erupted for decades and had acid rain showers all over. Even if we changed our ways and had many environmentally friendly societies we still at the mercy of earth. We change one thing it'll change shyt right back at us, but for some reason we keep thinking were in control lmao.
In America companies are pushing to be carbon neutral with the largest corps claiming to be net negative(via offsets), and U.S. Carbon emission continues to trend downward...
China continues to trend upwards per capita... but we know the agenda is really to bash America so derp derp
China continues to trend upwards per capita... but we know the agenda is really to bash America so derp derp
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Greed and exploitation in the pursuit of of "progress" isn't necessarily apart of human nature. Just look at some indigenous populations. We look upon these populations as backward and primitive but in many ways they had more wisdom. They provide a blueprint to how might begin to imagine a new civilization that appreciates the natural world.
On a grim note, I am becoming increasingly convinced that the only way humans stand a chance of surviving environmental collapse is for a complete collapse of global industrial civilization. Unfortunately that is probably the most realistic scenario. We aren't transitioning from a capitalist system to socialism anytime soon. There is simply too much power and money involved to the change the gears of this economic system in a timeframe that matters. Countries are going keep emitting CO2 and exploiting resources until it becomes no longer possible to do so.
We have to be careful with this mode of thinking because it only induces complacency. We have the means to not only slow down the pace of climate change but also to mitigate a global catastrophe. We should be exhausting all efforts to do so.
Even if you removed the profit incentive people would still desire the comforts available in life. 
Honestly I'm
at this point, the only way to change shyt is to cull consumerism but I don't see that happening without massive poverty and despair through economic depression so bad it forces people to focus on building better infrastructure and lives vs buying and wasting shyt. Otherwise how we gonna stop the actions of whole societies that don't give a damn about conservation, we just fukkedHonestly I'm
You're right. I don't forsee societies breaking away from consumerism. But we still have to make an attempt to mitigating CC by any means. Plus as the climate disasters start piling up people will slowly start to see reality and demand action from their governments.
luvaznpoon
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Glad to see Second Thought on the coli. 
But, as others have said, it's hard to see any real change on these major issues without violent upheaval first. People just won't learn without suffering, it seems. It's crazy the lives that will be lost because of pure greed.
But, as others have said, it's hard to see any real change on these major issues without violent upheaval first. People just won't learn without suffering, it seems. It's crazy the lives that will be lost because of pure greed.