Why couldnt trinity or nattie become divas champ?

[The Electric Lady]

You obviously never seen Naomi wrestle BEFORE coming to the WWE and Nattie is a great wrestler who wrestled all over the world. She even trained in the dungeon.

I don't even like the Bellas like that, but even they have improved dramatically.

So this is another case of WWE neutering the female wrestlers? I knew about Natalya. I didn't know about Naomi.

 

[JoogJoint]

So this is another case of WWE neutering the female wrestlers? I knew about Natalya. I didn't know about Naomi.

Pretty much. They do it to the male wrestlers too. Pretty much everything you learn in training school will be neutered or spayed to the highest degree because you have to adapt to the WWE's style and the women can't outshine the men.

 

[The Electric Lady]

Pretty much. They do it to the male wrestlers too. Pretty much everything you learn in training school will be neutered or spayed to the highest degree because you have to adapt to the WWE's style and the women can't outshine the men.

How Steph allow this?

 

[September]

I feel like it's "cool" in the IWC just say, "Who cares about women's wrestling" when there was a time where I thought women's matches were more entertaining than the men's, especially during the Attitude Era.

I blame creative for not investing enough time developing gimmicks and storylines for the women and giving them ample enough time to wrestling. I mean how can you prove yourself in a 2 minute match? I think if they started to hire more women's WRESTLERS and use the other girls as managers/valets and give the women more than one championshp, it will be better.

They should have a Womens' Tag Team Champsionship and Women's Championship.

Also they need to get rid of this Total Divas vs. Everybody else mess. We need clear heels, faces, and tweeners in the division.

People only think AJ is the best because she's been protected, given more time with the male wrestlers, and given ample enough time on the mic. They haven't given the other divas' that luxury.

Also stop calling them "divas" and go back to calling them "wrestlers." They can have a Diva's Championship for managers and valet to "wrestle" for men's eyecandy.

A Women's Tag Team belt is unnecessary. The don't have the depth nor the talent for that. It would literally just be the Bellas holding the belt. I do agree on the valet point. Cameron, Aksana, and Eva Marie should not be wrestlers. I'm praying they keep Lana as a valet. She's beautiful and she has attitude. She doesn't need to know or do anything else.

 

[Art Barr]

Naomi was on her way, until that bytch ass Botchsana injured her.

Also, its "sink or swim" time for Cameron

Cameron is improving and sold a very good costume malfunction like a professional at mania.
on top of having a great ddt and changed fervor for the business.

I think they keep the funkdactyls together and make it as interesting as lay cool was.


art barr

 

[Prince Akeem]

Because Naomi and those other girls can't wrestle.

You sure your not confusing Naomi with Cameron? Naomi is one of the better female talents in the ring.

 

[JoogJoint]

A Women's Tag Team belt is unnecessary. The don't have the depth nor the talent for that. It would literally just be the Bellas holding the belt. I do agree on the valet point. Cameron, Aksana, and Eva Marie should not be wrestlers. I'm praying they keep Lana as a valet. She's beautiful and she has attitude. She doesn't need to know or do anything else.

I disagree. Like I said they need to develop and invest in the women's talent more and build up the division much better. It wouldn't be JUST the Bellas if they pair up a woman wrestler that can hold her own weight on her own and pair her up with her own equal. They almost never have a single match with women, so it only makes sense. You can't have a 10+ diva's in the ring EVERY single match. It's getting boring.

Having only ONE championship for the women gives the women nothing to work towards.

If you say the Women's Tag Team Championship is useless, then so is the Mens' Tag Team Championship, IC, U.S., etc. I mean WTF are they doing with lower midcard championships right now? Exactly my point...

This isn't the women's fault in wrestling, the creative team needs to give them something better to do and give everybody a purpose or fire some folks.

 

[JoogJoint]

How Steph allow this?

It's been that way for awhile now. I believe even Lita said that the executives told her to tone down her lucha high flying moves.

What you do in training school and the indies don't fly in the WWE.

 

[Real]

It's been that way for awhile now. I believe even Lita said that the executives told her to tone down her lucha high flying moves.

What you do in training school and the indies don't fly in the WWE.

Gail Kim said the same thing too about the higher ups wanting the women to tone down their wrestling

 

[JoogJoint]

Gail Kim said the same thing too about the higher ups wanting the women to tone down their wrestling

Yeah, wasn't there a story of where Jericho had to defend the women outshining the men and Jericho said, "Maybe the men just need to do better, don't blame the women."

 

[September]

I disagree. Like I said they need to develop and invest in the women's talent more and build up the division much better. It wouldn't be JUST the Bellas if they pair up a woman wrestler that can hold her own weight on her own and pair her up with her own equal. They almost never have a single match with women, so it only makes sense. You can't have a 10+ diva's in the ring EVERY single match. It's getting boring.

Having only ONE championship for the women gives the women nothing to work towards.

If you say the Women's Tag Team Championship is useless, then so is the Mens' Tag Team Championship, IC, U.S., etc. I mean WTF are they doing with lower midcard championships right now? Exactly my point...

This isn't the women's fault in wrestling, the creative team needs to give them something better to do and give everybody a purpose or fire some folks.

Breh you do realize the Divas Division consists of only like 10 divas right? How would you logically plan a tag team division around that? There's like 4 times more men than women on the roster. Just because they're not handling the belts right doesn't mean they're not needed. And at you forgetting that the mens tag team division was booming before some breaks ups. PTP, Real Americans, The Usos, The Shield, The Rhodes Brothers and to a lesser extent Rybaxel, 3MB, Los Matadores, Tons of Funk and you can even throw R Truth and Xavier Woods. You just can't compare the two.

No one is saying that it's the womens fault and I agree that creative is dragging their feet when it comes to the Divas Division. But at this moment, another belt is not needed because they're struggling to give credibility to the shytty championship they have now.

 

[JoogJoint]

Breh you do realize the Divas Division consists of only like 10 divas right? How would you logically plan a tag team division around that? There's like 4 times more men than women on the roster. Just because they're not handling the belts right doesn't mean they're not needed. And at you forgetting that the mens tag team division was booming before some breaks ups. PTP, Real Americans, The Usos, The Shield, The Rhodes Brothers and to a lesser extent Rybaxel, 3MB, Los Matadores, Tons of Funk and you can even throw R Truth and Xavier Woods. You just can't compare the two.

No one is saying that it's the womens fault and I agree that creative is dragging their feet when it comes to the Divas Division. But at this moment, another belt is not needed because they're struggling to give credibility to the shytty championship they have now.

I don't think you comprehending what I'm saying. I'm not a "breh" by the way, I'm a woman.

It still goes back to what I said. Creative needs something for ALL the divas to do besides having Total Divas vs. everybody else kind of matches. The mens' Tag Team Championship doesn't mean sh_t anymore, but that's on creative not the wrestlers. They need to start scouting talent around the indies, recruit some women's wrestlers and make the division better.

We have 3 hours worth of show, but most of it is filler. There's enough talent and time, they need to make use of it.

I just don't like the "Who cares about women in wrestling" attitude on the IWC when we have a lot of women who are fano f wrestling, but even as a female watching sweaty guys in bikinis can be boring for the entire show.

 

[September]

I don't think you comprehending what I'm saying. I'm not a "breh" by the way, I'm a woman.

It still goes back to what I said. Creative needs something for ALL the divas to do besides having Total Divas vs. everybody else kind of matches. The mens' Tag Team Championship doesn't mean sh_t anymore, but that's on creative not the wrestlers. They need to start scouting talent around the indies, recruit some women's wrestlers and make the division better.

We have 3 hours worth of show, but most of it is filler. There's enough talent and time, they need to make use of it.

I just don't like the "Who cares about women in wrestling" attitude on the IWC when we have a lot of women who are fano f wrestling, but even as a female watching sweaty guys in bikinis can be boring for the entire show.

I comprehend what you're saying and I disagree. They don't need something for ALL the divas to do. They tried to turn valets into wrestlers and now it's too late. They can't go back to just being valets. I rather not see them at all. The ' E fukked up in that respect. I don't want to see men or women learning HOW to wrestle on RAW. That's what developmental is for. I don't want to see a one on one match between Cameron and Tamina or Eva Marie vs Naomi. Trash wrestlers with semi good one just for the sake of having match? Nope. Give the ones who CAN wrestle time and they can give the rest the same three minute matches or not use them at all. They won't be missed.

The mens Tag Team Championship doesn't mean shyt anymore.

The scenario you're proposing is going to take years to come to fruition. If it does at all. Number one you're expecting the company to care as much about the women's division as they do about that mens. That will never, ever happen. If that were the case half of Shimmer and Shine would be signed by now and in developmental. The Divas division is on their way to getting better. Very slowly but it's moving in that direction. Now they have Paige, Naomi, The Bella's, Summer Rae, Nattie, Emma, AJ and maybe Tamina. In the next year or so I can see Charlotte and Sasha coming up. They've got Raquel Diaz, JoJo and Shara training. I think womens wrestling in the ' E has a good future but don't expect it to ever reach the levels of the mens division because it never will.

 

[The Electric Lady]

Omg another sister.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

To me, this whole thing smelled of the 'E punishing AJ for CM Punk (her fiancee) leaving the way he did.

They are known for punishing people by proxy historically and I wouldn't be surprised if AJ was on her way out of the company.

That was disrespectful to have the champ of 290- something days beat the whole roster CLEAN and then have her lose to a rookie in her first match.

That was done to punish AJ, str8 up.