Why did so many Southern Black and primarily older Blacks choose Joe Biden?

[radio rahiem]

Progressives turn into st0rmfr0nt once their Messiah is losing.

These results make them show their true colors.

Our people aren’t above criticism

 

[Professor Emeritus]

this is nonsense

There’s nothing wrong with wanting Biden as President. He’s not as progressive as Bernie is only a flaw on the internet

Dude please I can write a book on why that’s untrue. He’s a blue dog democrat he’s basically a republican. The crime bill he authored and championed not just voted for. He’s a pathological liar just like trump “ I was arrested with Mandela “ even in his 88 campaign he lied about graduating with 3 degrees and top of his class when he really has one degree and was like 75th of 80 students , there pathological lying. He said he didn’t want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle , he said he was eating dinner and getting along with segregationists. Foh at this cac being a friend of the black community or progressive or whatever , he’s trash period

Damn, and that's only barely getting started. It wasn't just one crime bill - he's cosponsored EVERY crime bill in the Senate since 1976. He said test scores were low cause there are a lot of black kids in the mix and he blamed black families for American public school shortcomings. He's spent his entire life protecting the insurance industry and the wealthy and hasn't done shyt for income inequality or the black-white wealth gap. He virtually ignores environmental policy, both the local (keeping polluters from fukking up communities like they did Flint) and the global (ain't doing anything to slow down global warming or other environmental catastrophes). Booker, Bernie, Warren, Kamala all co-signed HR 40, Biden hasn't. Even his family has been eating off of corruption and government kickbacks damn near his entire time in office.

He's a rich man's politician. The only real difference between moderate dems and moderate republicans is a few social issues, they've basically given up on the working class/poor and the black community.

 

[SunZoo]

So that couldn't happen if Bernie won and helmed over a recession, letting the Republicans label him as a socialist who wrecked the economy?

MAGA 2.0 would be in full steam at that point.

There seems to be a lack of realization that Bernie could easily get tagged just as badly as anyone in any type of future speculation.

Whatever they do, they couldn't run to the left of him.

Republicans have been labeling every democrat and progressive social policy 'socialist' for 80 years now. And while they have always relied on cacs to buffer against the black vote, the MAGA brand at it's core is anti-establishment, You can't run against Sanders or someone carrying the torch for the movement he helped galvanize the same way you could Biden. MAGA as they exist now have a winning playbook to use against an even weaker version of Hillary.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

they stupid... this is the same man who wrote a crime bill to solely punish black folks and the older generation rewards him for it knowing full and well he did it to destroy black families and other black folks... they don't even care as long as he's a white massa thats all they see and care about...

And BS voted for it so what’s the difference? Miss me with the VAW Act counterpoint as well. If he didn’t believe in it so much then he should’ve voted against as a point of moral standing

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Sanders’ ability to build coalitions and “rally the troops” is sorely lacking IMO.

Can you name who you think is skilled at building coalitions and "rallying the troops" to actual progressive system-changing ends?

We haven't had a seriously progressive reform bill of any major sort in our lifetimes. The wealthy have seen their wealth nearly continuously increase for forty straight years. From 2016 until now Sanders has done more than any other politician to encourage people towards reformation, to actually reach for something new. Who do you think has done it better? I don't really count super low-hanging fruit like "entrenched/expanded the current system with Republican-friendly legislation" to be an example of much of anything.

 

[Primetime21]

this is nonsense

There’s nothing wrong with wanting Biden as President. He’s not as progressive as Bernie is only a flaw on the internet

Where do you live

 

[LurkMoar]

But Biden gonna get it and take all the blame for not making the economy better.

I'm more concerned about "name recognition" at this point. This is Biden's last chance, Obama's wife don't want to be involved with politics, The Clinton's been tarnished by Trump, Al Gore and his wife are practically forgotten. The Dems need to explore new dynasties and candidates in 2024 and beyond because "name recognition" is just about gone due to aging out.

Yea this is the last time I’m voting for another 70+ year old. Need new blood badly ..



yang 2024

 

[Noriega]

Literally just asked my 81 year old grandma this, she simply said

“Well he was Obama’s VP so that’s why I support him”.

I love grammy but damn, you know if Biden was just another veteran senator he would not have the black support he has.

he riding off that Obama name heavy.

 

[MoneyTron]

Can you name who you think is skilled at building coalitions and "rallying the troops" to actual progressive system-changing ends

No, I can’t. But in this context, he’s going up someone who is good at doing those things for his own purposes. That’s a weakness.

 

[MoneyTron]

Whatever they do, they couldn't run to the left of him.

Republicans have been labeling every democrat and progressive social policy 'socialist' for 80 years now. And while they have always relied on cacs to buffer against the black vote, the MAGA brand at it's core is anti-establishment, You can't run against Sanders or someone carrying the torch for the movement he helped galvanize the same way you could Biden. MAGA as they exist now have a winning playbook to use against an even weaker version of Hillary.

Weaker version?

Let’s just ignore 30+ years of anti-Clinton sentiment in all sides of politics towards Hilary that Biden doesn’t have not to mention the ingrained sexism that dominates American culture.

Whatever you think of Biden, to many he’s still a likeable old white man. Its a natural advantage Hilary never had.

The math has changed and many of you are too reliant on policy when its clear given 2016 and with the performance of Warren in 2020, that policy is not at the forefront right now.