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Y'all loved and laughed right along when he went at ADOS/FBA c00ns and bedwenches for YEARS but when it comes to your doorstep (cause let's be real y'all don't call out your c00ns and bedwenches, y'all let em fester)...
We have to call out your c00ns and bedwenches for you...
Now the kaw-kawing and kee-keeing stops because its y'all that's finally getting called out?...
nikka please, y'all so damn soft when it comes to any sort of criticism...
maybe it's just me, but I always assumed that when he was calling out c00ns, bedwenches, agents, fags etc, he was also including Africans and all the diaspora? He wasn't on this strictly ADOS/AA thing until Yvette and nem did, so I didn't think he was only calling out AAs in the past.

this is definitely a wave for him
 

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The civil war was fought by two members of the same race, that ended up helping their nation in long run. So again, you are not ADOS but why do you feel you have better insight than ADOS to tell us what's better for us?
And again I ask where in any of my statements did I declare I knew better? Stop it slime.

It is quite confounding that africans created the diaspora,no?:mjgrin:

This is going in circles. You got it bro.
 

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Tariq knows his audience are idiots who don't research anything he says. He claimed the woman who started the #muterkelly hashtag was Somali (he actually said "somalian" being the idiot that he his) but none of his followers had the common sense to bring up the fact that the woman's name is Kenyette Barnes. The possibility of a Somali having such a name is almost zero.
 

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I can tell folk dont really be paying attention (his haters and supportets alike), he slipped up in one of his past podcasts/youtube stream and kinda exposed why he's been on this anti-African/Caribbean kick lately.

If y'all remember around when 1804 dropped he was bigging up Malema heavy for his actions and preaching Pan-Africanism and Dual-citizship with other African/Caribbean countries, getting on code globally... Then all of a sudden it stopped.

It came out later in one of his shows that alot of the countries Tariq tried to invest in, break bread in and gain dual citizenship in curbed him. I think he realized alot of thr countries only fukk with American blacks to a point. And it makes sense timeline wise cause once whatever plans he wanted to achieve with the diaspora evaporated, he started to hop on the ADOS talk and then coined the term "Foundational Blacks".
Background check probably revealed red flags. Arrests, affiliations with gang members & pimps/sex traffickers ,etc.
The same types of red flags that would prevent someone from entering the US or becoming a citizen here. Not sure why people would think that it would be different overseas.
They curbed him, but his ego wouldn't let him accept that. So, he probably rationalized the rejection as "these countries don't fukk with Black Americans" No, they probably don't fukk with him.
 

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Background check probably revealed red flags. Arrests, affiliations with gang members & pimps/sex traffickers ,etc.
The same types of red flags that would prevent someone from entering the US or becoming a citizen here. Not sure why people would think that it would be different overseas.
They curbed him, but his ego wouldn't let him accept that. So, he probably rationalized the rejection as "these countries don't fukk with Black Americans" No, they probably don't fukk with him.

Yeah this makes perfect sense and further corroborates my point. Pos rep fam.
 

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There was no reason why anyone needed to create division.

The division already existed..but I'm not sure you even responding to what I'm actually meant.

You can't presume to know anyone better than they know themselves.

Huh? African and Caribbean scholars have written about the colonial/colonized mindset of their respective cultures. When a black immigrant comes to America and regurgitates rhetoric like "this is a nation of immigrants"this shows they don't understand (false consciousness) the true nature of politics and race in the United States. The US is a two-pronged racial caste system which reinforces itself by admitting newcomers into whiteness. That's what immigration is, nothing more, nothing less. Argentina and Brazil to a lesser degree did this. Non-ados black people who come here and think they have a lane (opportunities) outside of this binary caste system are living in a sociopolitical false consciousness; no different than the boule or other black Americans who think their social networks, luncheons and bank accounts have given them a lane different from the rest of us. See the latest Somali thread as an example. A small group of black people are "allowed" to create an opportunity for themselves and that achievement is compared and extrapolated out as if 40 million Negroes could maneuver the same way in a systematically racist America. We can't, nor could 40 million negroes of Somali or any other African descent do so if they had been here 400 years in the same situation.

Black Americans have been here since the beginning and we understand this country the best. Our writing and literary tradition among other traditions bears this out.

And again the idea of any Black group having moral high ground over another appears "we need to be told and taught"

Moral high ground? I didn't say anything about moral authority. Again, Black Americans understand this country the best. Black immigrants of the past didn't have extensive enclaves, business and social networks to delude them that their fate wasn't dependent on and tied to rest of black America, so no one needed to be taught, it was clear and they got it. Post civil rights and immigration act, this understanding has been lost on many who think the opportunities they have a result of just their own ingenuity.

Compared to white America, yes, ados are the moral authority of this country. Even the NYT and 1619 project have harkened to this sentiment recently, though I think being overly moral doesn't always work out for us.

nikkaz can juelz and dance around it all they want but it's pure hate, worry about white supremacy. white supremacy is cancer, a random foreigner hating on you is like having a hang nail.. yet you invest all this time into dealing with a hangnail while cancer is eating you alive. this is the logic of Yvette and Tone. Buffoonery

Yvette and Tone don't go in on black immigrants as much as some people make out. Tariq is over the top right now on this, but that's par for the course with him with mostly anything. To call it "pure hate" is ridiculous. We are trying to get on code to fight white supremacy and that includes all of us airing out c00ns.Low key, I'm even seeing some black immigrants co-sign stuff from the ados boule class and the latest Jay/NFL move, so if a lot of ados so-called power moves are getting cosigned, calling out ones own countrymen "in places or spaces of opportunity" seems even more unlikely. And, yes, other black people, especially immigrants are often easy and unnecessary targets. Still, the buffer negroes esp in politics need to be displaced before we can properly tackle white supremacy, and that means a lot of so called "successful" ados will get that work too. Something tells me a number of black immigrants ain't gonna like that either.
 
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The division already existed..but I'm not sure you even responding to what I'm actually meant.



Huh? African and Caribbean scholars have written about the colonial/colonized mindset of their respective cultures. When a black immigrant comes to America and regurgitates rhetoric like "this is a nation of immigrants"this shows they don't understand (false consciousness) the true nature of politics and race in the United States. The US is a two-pronged racial caste system which reinforces itself by admitting newcomers into whiteness. That's what immigration is, nothing more, nothing less. Argentina and Brazil to a lesser degree did this. Non-ados black people who come here and think they have a lane (opportunities) outside of this binary caste system are living in a sociopolitical false consciousness; no different than the boule or other black Americans who think their social networks, luncheons and bank accounts have given them a lane different from the rest of us. See the latest Somali thread as an example. A small group of black people are "allowed" to create an opportunity for themselves and that achievement is compared and extrapolated out as if 40 million Negroes could maneuver the same way in a systematically racist America. We can't, nor could 40 million negroes of Somali or any other African descent do so if they had been here 400 years in the same situation.

Black Americans have been here since the beginning and we understand this country the best. Our writing and literary tradition among other traditions bears this out.



Moral high ground? I didn't say anything about moral authority. Again, Black Americans understand this country the best. Black immigrants of the past didn't have extensive enclaves, business and social networks to delude them that their fate wasn't dependent on and tied to rest of black America, so no one needed to be taught, it was clear and they got it. Post civil rights and immigration act, this understanding has been lost on many who think the opportunities they have a result of just their own ingenuity.

Compared to white America, yes, ados are the moral authority of this country. Even the NYT and 1619 project have harkened to this sentiment recently, though I think being overly moral doesn't always work out for us.



Yvette and Tone don't go in on black immigrants as much as some people make out. Tariq is over the top right now on this, but that's par for the course with him with mostly anything. To call it "pure hate" is ridiculous. We are trying to get on code to fight white supremacy and that includes all of us airing out c00ns.Low key, I'm even seeing some black immigrants co-sign stuff from the ados boule class and the latest Jay/NFL move, so if a lot of ados so-called power moves are getting cosigned, calling out ones own countrymen "in places or spaces of opportunity" seems even more unlikely. And, yes, other black people, especially immigrants are often easy and unnecessary targets. Still, the buffer negroes esp in politics need to be displaced before we can properly tackle white supremacy, and that means a lot of so called "successful" ados will get that work too. Something tells me a number of black immigrants ain't gonna like that either.

Basically you always see the glass as half empty. Others see opportunity and they make a life so why shouldn't they believe it's a country where immigrants can achieve? Compared to where they come from its true.

You want people living with a pessimistic outlook. Again just because some foreign Black people have a colonized mindset does not mean that all do. You keep insisting that immigrants have no race conciousness.

The thing with this approach is again the presumption that you know better than others... It's a constant.

We need to be taught about the real America.

We need to be taught check our own c00ns.

Who says "we" need any of this besides you? How are you so insistent on telling others what they know and don't know.... What they should be doing.

If we are going to get on code the first thing is to look at each other as EQUAL. Do away with the idea that you are so much more informed and aware than others.
 
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