Why didn’t the USA invade Canada in the early days?

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Can you imagine how massive America would really be with all of Canada added to its original size? :picard:

We did. Multiple times. We just got pushed back. You gotta remember the United States was extremely weak in the beginning. We couldn’t beat Britain or France. We had to play them off each other. We got Britain to help us get France out of the way in the French & Indian War, then France was so mad even decades later, they helped us push England/Britain out outta revenge. But by ourselves we stood no chance really against either. That’s why we couldn’t go up there. I believe Benedict Arnold got embarrassed when he tried to take Montreal.
 

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forgive me if this is a stupid question, I forgot about some history from school, but why didn't the US not try to take all of Mexico, I heard about Texas but why did America stop there ?
 

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Was aware of the war of 1812 but not the Canadian connection. I always thought the British were trying to run it back after the war of independence.
 

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:snoop: Another terrible post in here. Not even worth breaking down the history to you because you obviously don’t read and have no knowledge of history.

Im glad it’s a few American bruhs in here who are actually familiar with the War of 1812 but it’s dumb asses like you who help form the narrative of Americans being ignorant fools to the rest of the world. Go pick up a book you fukking moron.

You find me a historian or a wiki that says Canadians did it and maybe I would say you're right. :umad:
 

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fukking crazy to think about how Britain was fighting multiple major wars, oftentimes thousands of miles apart, simultaneously.

They sound like pansies but they're easily the most thorough empire ever, they're the real life Lannisters from Game of Thrones. And I'm somebody who fukks with the Mongols, Alexander, etc and I know Roman and Spanish Empire history by heart. Brits are different.

Edit: In fact, Rome is the daddy and the sons are British, Spanish, French and Portuguese Empires, with Britain being the most brolic brother
 

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forgive me if this is a stupid question, I forgot about some history from school, but why didn't the US not try to take all of Mexico, I heard about Texas but why did America stop there ?

A number of reasons; off the top of my head:

1. Slavery (the most important). Texas was settled by slave-owning gringos, which made its annexation relatively simple, and desirable to the Southern planter class who had the nation by the balls back then. Mexico, on the other hand, abolished slavery in 1829. Trying to integrate it into the US--which was strictly divided between slave-owning and non-slave owning states would have been a political nightmare, which not even the most avaricious Southern politician wanted to touch.
2. Military. We won the Mexican-American War through swiftness and audacity i.e. Winfield Scott's march on Mexico City (probably the greatest American feat of arms before the Vicksburg Campaign), and that was primarily done by a small professional force and temporary volunteers. We could bring the Mexican government to its knees, but we simply lacked the military power or the political will to maintain a long-term presence in Mexico; this would have cost an enormous amount of money; always an important factor.
3. The Mexican people, who--justly or not--were largely seen as ungovernable, even by their own leaders. "In a hundred years to come my people will not be fit for liberty. They do not know what it is….Despotism is the proper government for them."--Santa Anna. It would be too much work trying to integrate them--with their popish religion and their strange language--into the United States.

Any attempt to permanently conquer Mexico by the US would have eventually ended like the French occupation of Mexico.

Note: these are just a few reasons. There are a bunch more, and keep in mind that we carved off a massive chunk of Mexico as it was.

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