Why didn’t the USA invade Canada in the early days?

[Fresh]

A number of reasons; off the top of my head:

1. Slavery (the most important). Texas was settled by slave-owning gringos, which made its annexation relatively simple, and desirable to the Southern planter class who had the nation by the balls back then. Mexico, on the other hand, abolished slavery in 1829. Trying to integrate it into the US--which was strictly divided between slave-owning and non-slave owning states would have been a political nightmare, which not even the most avaricious Southern politician wanted to touch.
2. Military. We won the Mexican-American War through swiftness and audacity i.e. Winfield Scott's march on Mexico City (probably the greatest American feat of arms before the Vicksburg Campaign), and that was primarily done by a small professional force and temporary volunteers. We could bring the Mexican government to its knees, but we simply lacked the military power or the political will to maintain a long-term presence in Mexico; this would have cost an enormous amount of money; always an important factor.
3. The Mexican people, who--justly or not--were largely seen as ungovernable, even by their own leaders. "In a hundred years to come my people will not be fit for liberty. They do not know what it is….Despotism is the proper government for them."--Santa Anna. It would be too much work trying to integrate them--with their popish religion and their strange language--into the United States.

Any attempt to permanently conquer Mexico by the US would have eventually ended like the French occupation of Mexico.

Note: these are just a few reasons. There are a bunch more, and keep in mind that we carved off a massive chunk of Mexico as it was.

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thanks for your reply breh

 

[ElMorenoFeo809]

forgive me if this is a stupid question, I forgot about some history from school, but why didn't the US not try to take all of Mexico, I heard about Texas but why did America stop there ?

Probably because America was focusing on expanding westward " from sea to shining sea". To secure the pacific coast from foriegn invasions. Lewis and Clark expedition gave the america a heads up about another coast and vast lands. Fews years later, The Louisiana purchase ( which mexico should blame on france for causing the mexican-american war in the the future) which allowed the u.s to expand westward to then mexican's held state or territory Tejas/Texas. America got greedy and started to settle In texas which eventually sparked a war. After the war with America's victory, treat of Hildalgo was made where mexico gave territories from mexico to california and inlands (nevada and probably parts or colorado) to the U.S.
Reason that was might be because the U.S at that time told the Mexicans that they didnt want to conquer them, they were just trying to extend their border to the pacific coast.

 

[GoAggieGo.]

Living up here from the states I am amazed at the level of ignorance and stupidity people have in america about canada. Yall would kill to live in a place with actual nature. My only regret is that the RCMP exists and that the first nations are completely in control.

I drink tap water everyday here, i can actually smell fresh air. I could never live in america again, this is not even counting the healthcare shyt.


Canada is just a British Oil LLC mixed with genocide

Nah, breh. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Hold up, Canada beat us up?

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

They sound like pansies but they're easily the most thorough empire ever, they're the real life Lannisters from Game of Thrones. And I'm somebody who fukks with the Mongols, Alexander, etc and I know Roman and Spanish Empire history by heart. Brits are different.

Edit: In fact, Rome is the daddy and the sons are British, Spanish, French and Portuguese Empires, with Britain being the most brolic brother

Honestly the British empire is much more impressive to me bc of the competition and geographical distances involved.

 

[ElMorenoFeo809]

They sound like pansies but they're easily the most thorough empire ever, they're the real life Lannisters from Game of Thrones. And I'm somebody who fukks with the Mongols, Alexander, etc and I know Roman and Spanish Empire history by heart. Brits are different.

Edit: In fact, Rome is the daddy and the sons are British, Spanish, French and Portuguese Empires, with Britain being the most brolic brother[/QUOTE]

Take out British and add Romania (although they didn't colonize any lands in the new world). The british are not seen as part of the old world latin community. Most Modern brits trace their lineage to germany or the saxon tribes. There was no anglos saxon when the romans conquered britannia, it was all filled with celts=modern irish folks.

 

[Ozymandeas]

forgive me if this is a stupid question, I forgot about some history from school, but why didn't the US not try to take all of Mexico, I heard about Texas but why did America stop there ?

Spain was a world power back then. Central America and the Caribbean were the bread baskets of the New World and they controlled it. The U.S. was a bunch of rebels/former Brits/expatriates/criminals. They barely won the American Revolution. Imagine a group of people on Mars winning a war against Earth for their freedom. We would probably just let them go because it would cost too much to keep fighting, not because we couldn’t beat them if we really wanted. That’s why England did it. Keeping that in mind, there was no way we were going to fight another dominant power and win. We didn’t become a real threat globally until the 1900s.

 

[Cuban Pete]

@ElMorenoFeo809
Yea your right as far as ethnicity the modern Britons are Germanic, the ancient ones in contact with Rome were Celtic. In fact King Arthur was from Wales not England, but I still feel like England picked up game from Rome. Scotland didn't have any Roman influence, and look at the difference between Scotland and England in the history of the world, even tho imo the Scots are more rugged than the English. The English picked up the art of diplomacy and warfare from the Romans and Vikings and mixed that shyt, that's why they're never gonna fall out of the top 5 no matter what happens

 

[Trot LaRoc]

A number of reasons; off the top of my head:

1. Slavery (the most important). Texas was settled by slave-owning gringos, which made its annexation relatively simple, and desirable to the Southern planter class who had the nation by the balls back then. Mexico, on the other hand, abolished slavery in 1829. Trying to integrate it into the US--which was strictly divided between slave-owning and non-slave owning states would have been a political nightmare, which not even the most avaricious Southern politician wanted to touch.
2. Military. We won the Mexican-American War through swiftness and audacity i.e. Winfield Scott's march on Mexico City (probably the greatest American feat of arms before the Vicksburg Campaign), and that was primarily done by a small professional force and temporary volunteers. We could bring the Mexican government to its knees, but we simply lacked the military power or the political will to maintain a long-term presence in Mexico; this would have cost an enormous amount of money; always an important factor.
3. The Mexican people, who--justly or not--were largely seen as ungovernable, even by their own leaders. "In a hundred years to come my people will not be fit for liberty. They do not know what it is….Despotism is the proper government for them."--Santa Anna. It would be too much work trying to integrate them--with their popish religion and their strange language--into the United States.

Any attempt to permanently conquer Mexico by the US would have eventually ended like the French occupation of Mexico.

Note: these are just a few reasons. There are a bunch more, and keep in mind that we carved off a massive chunk of Mexico as it was.

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Exactly the parts we took from Mexico were relatively sparsely populated so not much resistance. Imagine having to leave a huge occupying force in mexico city or Monterrey with millions of ppl not just some scattered cities and ranches

 

[supertrekker]

Wasn’t shyt up there worthy of invading.

You fukkers get oil natural gas metals and other mineral from us. Plus we have the most fresh water in the world. What does America have worth invading for. McDonalds.

 

[supertrekker]

Exactly. They do what we tell them to anyway and if they had it their way they'd all be American so what's the point...

Shows what you know. Our idiot Prime Minister Justin Trudeau sold us out to China and now we do what they tell us to do.

 

[supertrekker]

“British Columbia” lol. White Canadians were British/French colonists.

Not anymore

 

[supertrekker]

The fact that most of you never heard of 1812 is incredible...

I've always heard about it but never took interest in actually reading about. So when did this war happen.

 

[supertrekker]

War of 1812 already happened and resulted in the White House being burnt down. Why are there so many people on the Coli with no historical knowledge ??



Canada has the third largest oil reserves in the world. If Canada elected smarter prime ministers it would be one of the wealthiest countries in the world. Plenty of good resources.

We shake our head everyday over this. Norway used their oil reserves the right way and although it's freezing over there their peeps don't have much to worry about when it comes to financial security. Their country's pension is funded by their oil.

 

[levitate]

You fukkers get oil natural gas metals and other mineral from us. Plus we have the most fresh water in the world. What does America have worth invading for. McDonalds.

We have have oil/gas/minerals too and can get them from other (warmer) countries. We have the Great Lakes for fresh water and aquifers.

Man, go listen to Alanis Morisset and get your country’s GDP up before throwing shots. Get your military up too. Y’all even in the top 20???