"Why didn't Africans ever try to save ADOS?"

[dj-method-x]

They were out witted for 200 years...I mean, you would figuar they would catch on sooner or later

the fukk..

We've been outwitted for 400 years. Africa has been destroyed by American, European, Asian imperialism and colonialism, AND internal conflict on the continent. We've only had to deal with one oppressor in comparison. The victim blaming in your post while being the same kind of victim and sharing a common oppressor of the ones you are looking down upon is embarrassing.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Most West and Central Africans didn’t have the naval technology to sail to America to rescue your ancestors

The entire region was undergoing MASSIVE upheaval due to the slave trade

Some states tried to stop the exportation of people...

 

[get these nets]

OP,

I have a lot of people blocked, so I'm certain that I miss 1/3 to 1/2 of the threads and conversations that go in in this section of the board. I don't get the full context or backgrounds of arguments/ debates.


At face value, I guess the article is seeking to educate or correct misinformation about the nature of the slave trade. I actually wanted to do a series on the coli ,clarifying and correcting some of the propaganda that has been leveled recently. With source material cited for those who are interested in the truth.

I'm obviously from the diaspora of enslaved Africans, but I never understood how the "they sold us" belief justifies anger towards "Africans". Didn't make logical sense to me and still doesn't. If a person has issues with a living person because of what they've done or said, that's one thing.The extremes,where people are crafting theories to justify distancing themselves from an entire continent because of the decisions of certain rulers and merchants from 16th to 19th century are sad.

I'm not sure that I've read anybody here or any credible adult ask "why didn't they come for us"? An adult thinking or saying that in 2019 is too far gone to correct.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

#ados
No black agenda
no black vote

I'm not sure what percentage of the1,000,000+ Floridians that JUST received their right to vote back a few months ago are ADOS, but be sure to send them the memo.

 

[Lost1]

i don't agree with everything in the article, but the fact that naval technology in west and central africa wasn't at the required level is definitely one of the most obvious obstacles

the other issue is that most african rulers really were too ignorant to catch on to the scale and magnitude of what was going on

they didn't have the bigger picture or bird's eye view of the whole trade

that's not to excuse them because regardless of that if enough of them had objected to the trade in their own individual kingdoms or regions it would have died down eventually

that's just to point out another reason that they failed and made the poor choices they did



something slightly related:

a little known example of one group of africans working with ADOS is the agreement that Martin Delany and Robert Campbell of the Niger Valley Exploring Party signed with a ruler in a part of Nigeria, for the establishment of a settlement there:

"During the 1850s Delany moved from cautious endorsement of emigration within the Americas to planning African-American colonies in West Africa. He organized emigration conferences in 1854, 1856, and 1858, and in 1854 he published The Political Destiny of the Colored Race, a pamphlet that recommended emigration. In late 1858 he sailed to West Africa, visiting Alexander Crummell in Liberia in 1859. In December of that year, in the company of Robert Campbell, a teacher at the Institute for Colored Youth in Philadelphia, he signed a treaty with the Alake of Abeokuta, in what is now western Nigeria, providing for the settlement of educated African Americans and the development of commercial production of cotton using free West African labor. Before the first group of settlers could leave for West Africa, however, the Civil War broke out and the plan never materialized."

Delany, Martin R. | Encyclopedia.com


i understand why most people (whether ADOS or non-ADOS) would not know about this episode because it never materialized into something concrete

but the political will and the mutual agreement was there for the establishment of an independent state there

http://people.duke.edu/~ldbaker/classes/backtoafrica/documents/blacket1.pdf

just certain factors prevented this from coming to fruition

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

i don't agree with everything in the article, but the fact that naval technology in west and central africa wasn't at the required level is definitely one of the most obvious obstacles

the other issue is that most african rulers really were too ignorant to catch on to the scale and the magnitude of what was going on

they didn't have the bigger picture or bird's eye view of the whole trade

Couldn't exactly pick up a phone and ask what's going on either.

Only 5% of us came to the states, and even if they did have the naval technology then what? War? The continent was already ransacked by multiple countries closer than the new world and now the tribes are supposed to leave their homeland completely defenseless?

The whole "they never came for us" argument is a platitude that never made much sense. It ignores the complexity of reality. There was a time that the Carolinas and I believe Mississippi were majority black. Someone could make the argument that we should hsve overthrown the region since we had the numbers, but how many of our ancestors would know some shyt like that???

 

[ThatTruth777]

why limit it to just black folks in america and not the entire western hemisphere

 

[DEAD7]

Africans, were complicit.

 

[Swahili P'Bitek]

Majority of africans were against the slave trade, and many risked & lost their lives to end it. But these are African heroes, so they are not to be paraded in western media, which portrays the slave trade in a binary manner; the evil african slave trader vs the sold slaves.

 

[Emoryal]

What a stupid questiom to ask. Wtf os going on.

 

[generic-username]

Anyone asking such a question is an idiot.



By the way, why do some people make it an issue when a Black person in the diaspora rejects Pan Africanism? An as actual African, I can understand how someone who hasn't been African for 400 plus years can reject the Pan African ideology.

 

[ultraflexed]

the fukk..

We've been outwitted for 400 years. Africa has been destroyed by American, European, Asian imperialism and colonialism, AND internal conflict on the continent. We've only had to deal with one oppressor in comparison. The victim blaming in your post while being the same kind of victim and sharing a common oppressor of the ones you are looking down upon is embarrassing.

The difference between AA'S going against whites here

And Africans going against whites is that they had "home field" advantage. They were in there own country, which means they had the numbers vs whites have always outnumbered blacks in the U.S., plus we were in non native land for us.

But based on what I've learned alot of kingdoms in African took part in the slave trade and got more riches so....