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Why didn't Mansa Musa attempt to take over the world?
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Europe is the a$$hole of the planet.
They got a whiff of how everyone else was living and started migrating there too, spreading disease, interrupting economies and markets, causing mischief, and disrupting systems.
All that conquering shyt is mostly made up bs.
Their number one skill has always been paperwork trickery.
Why would he give a fukk he's the richest human being in history, man's would literally gain nothing
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white people tried their tactics in China and were given thetreatment.
China was unified. Africa wasn't, then, and still isn't. That's how Europeans played it. They arrived after several West African Empires collapsed from internal warfare and just took advantage of an existing situation......
T'Challa Trillmonger
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nikkas have truly been pacified to the point where y'all look at true power as a "white thing".
is it really true power if its fleeting?
the "might is right" argument is always interesting to me, cuz it generally comes from proponents of colonial history ... would you be ok if tomorrow China/Russia/whoever teamed up and just took over the US? or would you be (naturally) defiant towards the new "true power" that is running shyt now?
Able Archer 83
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Yes. Horses and boats.
*China has entered the chat*
Able Archer 83
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Even at the time of the Mali Empire, much more than anyone else, the Mongols were dominating a large chunk of the globe. Then came the Turkic peoples...
UncleTomFord15
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The same way Britain did. The same way Spain did. The same way America did (does).How is he going to put together an army big enough to take over the WORLD?
Billions of dollars will eventually run out and now you got a bunch of mad countries coming to take their shyt back and more.
UncleTomFord15
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since I would be on the losing end, no.
You mean set up colonies in other parts of the world? The Mali empire before Musa sent ships in the direction of North america but only one ship came back and they did not believe him we he said they found a new land.
The First African Voyage To The Americas, a story
The colonies Britain and Spain created eventually got independence so that did not work out either. The US was technologically superior to the natives in America. Mali did not have that kind of technological superiority to invade people like that.
Able Archer 83
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So not with an army, but a navy. That's how they really did it.
This leads to additional problems. Not to engage in historical counterfactuals, but consider the relative naval heritage of Europe and Africa. The European naval-built empires only arose after centuries and centuries of experience in developing naval technology, doctrine and seamanship. The Mali Empire conquered on foot.
Also, the current off West Africa flows to the southeast; in the absence of the advanced technology/seamanship, this would make any such Mali naval expansion kind of limited.
Thread came across my mind recently, just wanted to say yall mindset in here is one of the main reasons we are in the position we are in no matter where we are on the planet.
I don't remember what I said in this thread, but yeah, geopolitics is our peoples primary weakness