Why do analyst/Experts prefer LeBron and players prefer Kobe?

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Aesthetics. LeBron is better than Kobe at basketball in every measurable way but Kobe's game is prettier. He has better highlights. He's a better bad shot maker. If this were figure skating or gymnastics then Kobe would be better... but it's not. I'd argue that Kobe has fooled more people with his game than LeBron has.
This is really what it comes down to. Bryant had a much prettier game. His movements were more fluid and his agility made for some breathtaking plays that a guy as big as LeBron can't make, but he could not finish in the paint like James can and he wasn't as good a shooter either. Then there's his shot selection, which was just horrid which people tend to overlook because of how pretty the made shots look. It's kinda similar to how a lot of people don't notice how :scust: the shot selection of Curry and Klay is because they tend to make so many of the :scust: shots that they take. They just happen to make them at a rate that justifies their shot selection.
 

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Jordan first step way faster and more explosive off the bounce and faster change direction :hubie:
even if true...that does not mean Jordan was "faster" than bron...he may have had a quicker 1st step, and so did Kobe for that matter, neither were "faster" however
 

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Nope. Just loose the weight and be more athletic then?

Plus I'm sure a lot of Lebron weight is muscle which he needs to even be as he is.:manny:

Do you think athletic ability is just jumping and running?

If one dude is 260 and another dude is 200 but they both run a 4.4 and have a 40 inch vertical, they're not the same level of athlete.

You need more energy to move more mass at same speeds. We've seen younger Lebron with less weight. He was a goddamn blur.



Do you nikkas not remember Lebron in 05-10?
 

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Because when you look at things objectively you get a clearer picture of the truth.

Kobe mainly makes people feel a certain way because his game was 100% ripped from Michael Jordan. And that's really who they're admiring and being inspired by. Not Kobe. They just can't admit it to themselves.

Please copy this in any kobe Bron related thread. This is the truth that nobody wants to admit. Jordan is the goat and Bron can only be seen on his level if a few things go his way but you ever consider this. Jordan was such a special one of a kind player that a few years after he retires we damn near have a clone of his game in kobe???
 

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Cause analysts and the media have an agenda and aren't honest. LeBron can still be compared to Jordan and thats a fiery debate. Players who are unbiased and actually know what they're talking about cause they play the game and respect kobe tell it how it is.

If this is true, why did players keep naming Bill Russell as the MVP over Wilt? One of the reasons that players got the MVP taken away from them was because they often played favorites rather than actually naming the best player on the court.

Why did players just name James fukking Harden as the MVP a couple years ago?




But anybody who has every played the game knows there are qualities that can't be measured by stats. AN Kobe has that KILLER instinct that Lebron doesn't. That competitive nature, that fire. It can't be taught, you can't train someone to want to rip your heart out on the court. You can't train that level of competitiveness that made Jordan and Kobe better. And people who never played or coached don't understand things that cannot be measured in stats.

And honestly Lebron is the perfect example of how mental the game of basketball is because Lebron is a better athlete physically than Jordan or Kobe. He's faster, stronger, quicker. There is no reason at all he shouldn't be better than Kobe or Jordan but he does not have that Killer in him which holds him back.

Always seeing this killer instinct bullshyt. Why is it that Lebron performs better in EVERY way than Kobe in elimination games? Why does Lebron have so many more legendary playoff games?

Kobe is great when the team he's playing is outmatched. He has some big playoff games in the midst of sweeps, or when Shaq and the other star were going at it and he was pretty much free to shoot at will against role players. But in the actual even series, when everything is on the line, he virtually never carries the team to victory. The best proof is how Laker fans constantly have to go to one game when he was 20 years old where he scored 28 points on 27 shots (against a team the Lakers had beaten without him just two games earlier) just to show a "clutch" playoff performance.

Lebron has 2007 Detroit Game 5, 2008 Boston Game 7, 2012 Indiana Game 4, 2012 Boston Game 6, 2013 San Antonio Game 7, 2016 Golden State Game 5, and 2016 Golden State Game 6. And that's just scratching the surface. I don't know if Lebron's Game 7 last year even would make his top-ten best elimination games, and it's still better than the best one that Kobe ever had.
 

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You need to sell the debate of LeBron vs MJ so it makes sense for them to skip over Kobe. Not to mention, Kobe at one point had what LeBron has with regards to media support and forever changed that with the rape case so once LeBron came around and held his end of the bargain it gave the media the perfect star to saddle it's "next Jordan" hype on. It's kinda funny when you think about it, all these stan wars that've gone on all these years really came from the sports media's need to generate debate by putting its greatest cash cow against whoever they decide is worth mention at the moment. Rather than let these players grow organically they have to be souped up and hyped up for our viewership. Hell, even Kawhi caught some of that when they started arguing that he's better than LeBron. It's like they need to layer this shyt on some lasagna shyt. Sport media and the NBA is addicted to what Jordan brought and they've been chasing the high ever since while selling us a bullshyt commodity they try to pass as sports journalism.
 

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If this is true, why did players keep naming Bill Russell as the MVP over Wilt? One of the reasons that players got the MVP taken away from them was because they often played favorites rather than actually naming the best player on the court.

Why did players just name James fukking Harden as the MVP a couple years ago?






Always seeing this killer instinct bullshyt. Why is it that Lebron performs better in EVERY way than Kobe in elimination games? Why does Lebron have so many more legendary playoff games?

Kobe is great when the team he's playing is outmatched. He has some big playoff games in the midst of sweeps, or when Shaq and the other star were going at it and he was pretty much free to shoot at will against role players. But in the actual even series, when everything is on the line, he virtually never carries the team to victory. The best proof is how Laker fans constantly have to go to one game when he was 20 years old where he scored 28 points on 27 shots (against a team the Lakers had beaten without him just two games earlier) just to show a "clutch" playoff performance.

Lebron has 2007 Detroit Game 5, 2008 Boston Game 7, 2012 Indiana Game 4, 2012 Boston Game 6, 2013 San Antonio Game 7, 2016 Golden State Game 5, and 2016 Golden State Game 6. And that's just scratching the surface. I don't know if Lebron's Game 7 last year even would make his top-ten best elimination games, and it's still better than the best one that Kobe ever had.

SHUT THE FUCC UP
 

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You need to sell the debate of LeBron vs MJ so it makes sense for them to skip over Kobe. Not to mention, Kobe at one point had what LeBron has with regards to media support and forever changed that with the rape case so once LeBron came around and held his end of the bargain it gave the media the perfect star to saddle it's "next Jordan" hype on. It's kinda funny when you think about it, all these stan wars that've gone on all these years really came from the sports media's need to generate debate by putting its greatest cash cow against whoever they decide is worth mention at the moment. Rather than let these players grow organically they have to be souped up and hyped up for our viewership. Hell, even Kawhi caught some of that when they started arguing that he's better than LeBron. It's like they need to layer this shyt on some lasagna shyt. Sport media and the NBA is addicted to what Jordan brought and they've been chasing the high ever since while selling us a bullshyt commodity they try to pass as sports journalism.


JORDAN WAS GREAT, BUT MARKETING AND MEDIA CREATED HIS MYSTIQUE AS WELL

AND THEY BEEN TRYNA CREATE THE SAME MYSTIQUE SINCE.. KOBE WAS THE ORIGINAL CHOSEN ONE, UNTIL, LIKE U SAID, THE RAPE TRIAL KILLED THAT

AND THEN THEY SKIPPED OVER TO LEBRON, BUT HE SIMPLY WASNT AS GOOD

NBA WOULDA NEVER VETOED CP3 TO THE LAKERS IF IT WAS LEBRON OR MJ IN KOBES SHOES .. AND KOBE WOULDA ENDED HIS CAREER WIT 7. WED BE TALKIN ABOUT HIM AS THE UNDISPUTED GOAT WIT THE SAME NBA CODDLING+FAVORITISM MJ AND LEBRON GOT

MEDIA CREATES THESE THINGS .. AND MOST FOLKS DUMB ENOUGH TO DRINK THE KOOLAID
 

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This is really what it comes down to. Bryant had a much prettier game. His movements were more fluid and his agility made for some breathtaking plays that a guy as big as LeBron can't make, but he could not finish in the paint like James can and he wasn't as good a shooter either. Then there's his shot selection, which was just horrid which people tend to overlook because of how pretty the made shots look. It's kinda similar to how a lot of people don't notice how :scust: the shot selection of Curry and Klay is because they tend to make so many of the :scust: shots that they take. They just happen to make them at a rate that justifies their shot selection.

This fool just said LeBron is better shooter than kobe
 

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JORDAN WAS GREAT, BUT MARKETING AND MEDIA CREATED HIS MYSTIQUE AS WELL

AND THEY BEEN TRYNA CREATE THE SAME MYSTIQUE SINCE.. KOBE WAS THE ORIGINAL CHOSEN ONE, UNTIL, LIKE U SAID, THE RAPE TRIAL KILLED THAT

AND THEN THEY SKIPPED OVER TO LEBRON, BUT HE SIMPLY WASNT AS GOOD

NBA WOULDA NEVER VETOED CP3 TO THE LAKERS IF IT WAS LEBRON OR MJ IN KOBES SHOES .. AND KOBE WOULDA ENDED HIS CAREER WIT 7. WED BE TALKIN ABOUT HIM AS THE UNDISPUTED GOAT WIT THE SAME NBA CODDLING+FAVORITISM MJ AND LEBRON GOT

MEDIA CREATES THESE THINGS .. AND MOST FOLKS DUMB ENOUGH TO DRINK THE KOOLAID
So being 6 for 6 in the finals, 6 mvps, DPOY, LEADING the league in scoring 10 times, LEADING the league in steals, 2 slam dunk titles, 2 Olympic gold medals, regular season mvps, being a hall of fame player plus a ton of other shyt AND having a legendary career have nothing to do with that right?
 
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