Why do analyst/Experts prefer LeBron and players prefer Kobe?

[O.T.I.S.]

Exactly. I wouldn't call cacs who never played the game "experts". The only "experts" are the former players and coaches.

Basically, the only ones who opinions really matter anyway

 

[Swagnificent]

I disagree, but it is what it is. LeBron just does more on the floor than Kobe. It's almost like the line "Wilt could be Russell, Russell could never be Wilt" to me, the average NBA player believes in a role where his offense is maximized and emphasized is more like what we've seen from Kobe than what we've seen from LeBron, which is why they could often relate to Kobe and pick him over LeBron.

As far as better things on the floor, LeBron shot better from 3 than Kobe - career 34 percent to Kobe's 32 percent. LeBron has 7 seasons shooting over 50 percent from the floor and all 7 seasons he averaged close to 7 assist in all of them AND 36 percent from 3 in four of them. He's one of the few players in the league that could thrive as both the roll man and ball-handler in the pick and roll, his size allowed him to play all five positions and defend multiple positions, including some defense at the rim.

Kobe and LeBron were both great defenders. This is why we can't always play the eye test. Kobe was not a good defender after 2008, yet still received awards for his defense. A ton of players in the league have reptuations for being good defenders and it's just not there. Both are top 15 players all-time, but LeBron just does more on the floor and does it more efficiently

And yet almost all of their PEERS say Kobe is better/more dominant.

Maybe its time to consider that there are aspects of sports that aren't captured by box score metrics? I think this is the thing that has you hung up. You don't believe that there are actual things about the game that the box score simply can't measure. And you can't seem to uderstand that just because player A is better at filling up the box score than player B, that doesn't make player A better.

Players know this. Fans like you who probably never played don't get it. That is why almost every NBA player they ask says Kobe is bettter than LeBron. Especially when its guys who have to guard them both like Ron Artest.

 

[Verbal Kint]

You got guys like Ron Artest, Jared Dudley, and Tayshaun Prince telling you Kobe is way harder to guard than LeBron. You got guys like Tony Allen (arguably the best perimeter defender of this era) saying Kobe is the GOAT in his eyes.

Its more than guys just liking his game. The best defenders ALL say Kobe is tougher to guard than LeBron.

But go ahead and keep discounting the opinions of the guys who are actually playing against these guys in favor of some cac like Nick Wright that probably never played a sport in their lives.

Kobe is a pure scorer. Of course he's harder to guard in that sense. LeBron is basically a PG in terms of how he plays. When's the last time anyone talked about a PG/distributer being one of the hardest to guard. For a defender you're way more concerned with a guy looking to score than a guy looking to pass. All I know is that Kobe has been on plenty of non contending teams. LeBron hasn't been on one since his first few years in the league

 

[King Karim]

so is shawn kemp better than tim Duncan?

if people stay true to this idea, then its gonna open up a can of worms.

I have days worth of examples.

did i say he was?

still most dominant don't equate to being the "best"

Shaq couldn't even be on the floor during crucial periods of the game. all shaq's strengths were based off physical mismatches, not skill mismatches. it's a difference

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Someone neg this fool above me. This is some of the most pitiful shyt I've seen. Kobe stans now resorting to claiming that Phil would have to bench Shaq in crunch time and wasn't a skilled player.

 

[blackzeus]

i agree with all this, but Lebron wasn't faster or more athletic than Jordan. And physically Kobe could finish just about as good as lebron at the rim.

LeBron never even won a dunk contest

People forgetting Jordan dunked from the damn free throw line.

 

[blackzeus]

Don't know but it's dumb. LeBron has never had the years of irrelvance during his prime that Kobe did. Their love for Kobe is irrational

Because he played in a sh*t conference and still couldn't make the finals without forming Voltron with Wade. Kobe has been to more finals than Lebron coming out of the West

 

[blackzeus]

Someone neg this fool above me. This is some of the most pitiful shyt I've seen. Kobe stans now resorting to claiming that Phil would have to bench Shaq in crunch time and wasn't a skilled player.

Shaq's free throws were a major liability, no lies were told, never heard of "hack a shaq"?

 

[Verbal Kint]

Because he played in a sh*t conference and still couldn't make the finals without forming Voltron with Wade. Kobe has been to more finals than Lebron coming out of the West

He played in the East when Detroit and Boston were winning titles. Smarten up now son

 

[10bandz]

Shaq's free throws were a major liability, no lies were told, never heard of "hack a shaq"?

Bron stans are having a bad summer breh let them cook

 

[DPresidential]

This is a weird question.

It's like why do NBA fans seem to have nothing but negative shyt to say about Melo but it seems, even at this point in his career, players would publicly express a genuine interest in their team putting together a trade that'll bring Melo to play with them.

 

[Swagnificent]

Kobe is a pure scorer. Of course he's harder to guard in that sense. LeBron is basically a PG in terms of how he plays. When's the last time anyone talked about a PG/distributer being one of the hardest to guard. For a defender you're way more concerned with a guy looking to score than a guy looking to pass. All I know is that Kobe has been on plenty of non contending teams. LeBron hasn't been on one since his first few years in the league

But he's also played in the Eastern conference that has been historically weak during his entire tenure compared to Kobe who played in the West that has been loaded his entire career.

Bron stans can't have it both ways. You can't excuse his finals losses by saying his teams were overmatched then claim he's some guy who can carry teams by himself.

I would say Kobe has proven more capable of winning with a non-elite supporting cast than LeBron. Kobe won back to back titles in 2009 and 2010 with Pau Gasol as his second best player. A guy who is the equivalent of Chris Bosh and Kevin Love. Guys who were LeBron's third option.

Kobe >>> LeBron at leading a team to contention.

LeBron is guy who needs overwhelming help to win rings while Kobe only needed one all-star like Gasol.

 

[Larry Lambo]

Love the fact that this argument is 10+ years old and never gets tired.

 

[blackzeus]

He played in the East when Detroit and Boston were winning titles. Smarten up now son

Kobe would have been to the finals damn near every year of his career coming out of the East, forget Detroit and Boston, how in the f*ck you get beat by the Orlando Magic?

 

[Truefan31]

People forgetting Jordan dunked from the damn free throw line.

without traveling too, double pumping in the air