Why do analyst/Experts prefer LeBron and players prefer Kobe?

[JYoung24]

I guess you started watching basketball in recent years like most kobe-lovers.

cuz LeBron carried the cavs to the finals in '07, before "forming voltron". this was also before kobe went to the finals as the star of the team.

unlike kobe, LeBron didn't have the priviledge of playing 2nd option to Shaquille O'Neal.






you do realize that Detroit & boston beat the lakers too, right?

LeBron's cavs with ilgauskas as the 2nd best player, put up a better fight than the lakers, btw.

meanwhile, kobe had lamar odom & caron butler, and couldn't get out the 1st round.






kobe is not that type of winner. hes not gonna carry a team anywhere.

by your fantasy logic, kobe would've stayed in charlotte, instead of forcing a trade to a loaded lakers team where he didn't even start until year 3.

but yall want to condemn LeBron for not wasting his career, playing for a team that turned down amare stoudemire in favor of j.j. hickson.

LeBron in 07 wouldnt of made it out the 1st roundin the west in 07 so don even bring that up

 

[Controversy]

LeBron in 07 wouldnt of made it out the 1st roundin the west in 07 so don even bring that up

Lebron in 07 got swept by the Spurs

This guy's record in the finals is 18 wins & 27 LOSSES

When he faces top teams from the West, he doesn't fare well in the offs

 

[Schmoove]

That whole killer instinct is such a bunch of overrated bullshyt masquerading as really little more than arrogance and greed.

If a player makes a pass out of double coverage to an open player to hit a big shot, people accuse that of somehow folding under pressure or not having a killer instinct or not being clutch.

There have been countless studies and analyses on things like that (that clutch argument) and every one of them has found it to be a false notion. Numbers tend to even out over larger sample sizes. But because all people do is remember and elevate individual moments, we get these false narratives.

Don't misunderstand. That's not to say that big moments don't exist. But the idea that any given player has some special gift for those moments is just not true. Over time...with a larger sample, they perform in line with how they always do.

Negged

 

[Gravity]

Honestly it's because Lebron puts up better looking stats. He's not chucking the ball up 30 times a game, he's passing and rebounding and playing defense. Even 4-13 looks better than than say Kobe being 8 for 21. So stat wise he's more impressive.

But anybody who has every played the game knows there are qualities that can't be measured by stats. AN Kobe has that KILLER instinct that Lebron doesn't. That competitive nature, that fire. It can't be taught, you can't train someone to want to rip your heart out on the court. You can't train that level of competitiveness that made Jordan and Kobe better. And people who never played or coached don't understand things that cannot be measured in stats.

And honestly Lebron is the perfect example of how mental the game of basketball is because Lebron is a better athlete physically than Jordan or Kobe. He's faster, stronger, quicker. There is no reason at all he shouldn't be better than Kobe or Jordan but he does not have that Killer in him which holds him back.

This level of nonsensical delusional dikkriding is why Kobe is the most overrated atg.

 

[McPiff]

 

[JYoung24]

Lebron in 07 got swept by the Spurs

This guy's record in the finals is 18 wins & 27 LOSSES

When he faces top teams from the West, he doesn't fare well in the offs

Exactly kobe could of got to the finals in the east in 07 to and he actually had a worst roster. Detroit was kind of past their prime and would go 5 minutes droughts without scoring so kobe could of went off against them and as long of somebody else played out of there mind like boobie Gibson he could of upset the Pistons also

 

[Swagnificent]

This level of nonsensical delusional dikkriding is why Kobe is the most overrated atg.

5>>>3

 

[Gravity]

5>>>3

Hall of shame shyt posting troll=you.

 

[Champ_KW]

I think player's appreciate Kobe's game more than LeBron's because they know how much more skill it takes to do what Kobe did versus what LeBron does. It's the same reason Barry Sanders got more love than Emmitt. There's just a deeper appreciation for the skill set. The footwork in the post, the fadeaway jumpers, the buckets in bunches, etc. These guys play the game and know how much work they put into those little nuances of the game and they couldn't do it at his level. So when someone does do it at that level, it heightens their appreciation for it. But "everyone" can bull doze to the lane and shoot 60% from the free throw line. So even tho it yields results, the players don't hold as much appreciation for the skill set that it takes to do what he does. The only thing that get props from his peers is his vision because he's able to see the floor in ways they themselves can't, and that's why they have a high appreciation for that aspect of his game. Analysts are just looking at numbers. Which is cool......if it's a part of the evaluation process, and not the end all be all.

 

[Born2BKing]

This level of nonsensical delusional dikkriding is why Kobe is the most overrated atg.

*Kobe goes 4 - 27 and shoots his team out of the game.*

Bu bu but the mamba face. He's so fearless. He was trying to rip their hearts out. Stats won't show that.

*misses playoffs"*

 

[Truefan31]

I think player's appreciate Kobe's game more than LeBron's because they know how much more skill it takes to do what Kobe did versus what LeBron does. It's the same reason Barry Sanders got more love than Emmitt. There's just a deeper appreciation for the skill set. The footwork in the post, the fadeaway jumpers, the buckets in bunches, etc. These guys play the game and know how much work they put into those little nuances of the game and they couldn't do it at his level. So when someone does do it at that level, it heightens their appreciation for it. But "everyone" can bull doze to the lane and shoot 60% from the free throw line. So even tho it yields results, the players don't hold as much appreciation for the skill set that it takes to do what he does. The only thing that get props from his peers is his vision because he's able to see the floor in ways they themselves can't, and that's why they have a high appreciation for that aspect of his game. Analysts are just looking at numbers. Which is cool......if it's a part of the evaluation process, and not the end all be all.

it's hard to prop up LeLoss when he'll finish his career with a losing NBA finals record period.

Again they prop up LeLoss because the media has to keep their jobs. Dumbasses like Nic Wright just says bullshyt so he'll get attention and still get a paycheck.

 

[Swagnificent]

I think player's appreciate Kobe's game more than LeBron's because they know how much more skill it takes to do what Kobe did versus what LeBron does. It's the same reason Barry Sanders got more love than Emmitt. There's just a deeper appreciation for the skill set. The footwork in the post, the fadeaway jumpers, the buckets in bunches, etc. These guys play the game and know how much work they put into those little nuances of the game and they couldn't do it at his level. So when someone does do it at that level, it heightens their appreciation for it. But "everyone" can bull doze to the lane and shoot 60% from the free throw line. So even tho it yields results, the players don't hold as much appreciation for the skill set that it takes to do what he does. The only thing that get props from his peers is his vision because he's able to see the floor in ways they themselves can't, and that's why they have a high appreciation for that aspect of his game. Analysts are just looking at numbers. Which is cool......if it's a part of the evaluation process, and not the end all be all.

Me too. I've always said LeBron is the best passer I've ever seen. His vision and ability to hit guys anywhere on the floor is his most SPECIAL attribute.

 

[McPiff]

it's hard to prop up LeLoss when he'll finish his career with a losing NBA finals record period.

Again they prop up LeLoss because the media has to keep their jobs. Dumbasses like Nic Wright just says bullshyt so he'll get attention and still get a paycheck.

 

[Controversy]

Me too. I've always said LeBron is the best passer I've ever seen. His vision and ability to hit guys anywhere on the floor is his most SPECIAL attribute.

He's a great passer for his size & position

But overall, c'mon man

 

[Wacky D]

Actually no it isn't. Cause even in those years the East won the NBA championship, the conference wasn't actually strong. The year Detroit won, it was considered a monumental upset and the East was weak as fukk. Miami in 06 also won in an upset coming back from down 2-0. Boston in 2008 is probably the only legit strong champion from that era from the East. And you could argue that 2009 and 2010 the East was as strong as the West at the top since they had 3 legit contenders in Boston, Orlando, and Cleveland. But even then the West had way more depth. Remember OKC made the playoffs in 2010 as the 8th seed with 50 wins.

There is no recency bias going on here. The Eastern conference has more or less been TERRIBLE for the last 18 years. There were a few years like 2008-2010 where it was respectable. But overall it has been significantly weaker than the West. And that isn't really up for debate.

Detroit is only considered an upset cuz it was the Detroit's first finals appearance with that team, and they ended the mighty lakers.
Miami's chip certainly wasn't an upset.

sure the west was deeper and was the better overall conference, but its been like for longer than just 19 years. but I see that yall don't want to press Michael Jordan.