Why do baseball fans like David Ortiz?
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tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
My problem is with PED's. My issue with A-Rod is putting himself in that position again.
correct. I think he's lying but that's nothing more than an opinion.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
Boston fans try to argue that he deserves to go into the Hall... but it ain't happening unless Bonds, A-Rod and the rest get in first
This. Ortiz and Ramirez both tested positive (in 2004 no less if my memory serves me right). OP you also left out he's an obnoxious ass on top of being fat. No justifying him going in unless Rodriguez goes in before he does. Barry was so clearly a hall of famer before juicing that I'd have to put him in first too. Same goes for Clemens. The fact that the guy accusing him got caught lying before and claims his evidence is needles he dug out of the garbage and was keeping in a beer can in his basement is beyond suspect to me. Boston fans have no credibility on this. The same stainbase goes and chants steroids at Johnny peralta in the alcs and then cheers Ortiz. When the Pat's get caught cheating, their response is "everyone else does it" even though the only other coach I can recall doing it and getting caught is a
McDaniels, and of course their fans crying about class, but then hopping on Twitter after losing to the Ravens in the afc title game to antagonize Torrey smith about his brother dying in a motorcycle crash. Last but not least, there's the moral grandstanding about Ray Lewis and the murder trial while defending Aaron Hernandez. Worst collection of human beings on this continent. Worse than a crossbreed of stereotypical philly fan with raider fan.
You really think ARod is the Manny are the only ones to juice after the ban?
Lol come on
It's not an opinion that bonds lied about juicing.
HE LIED ABOUT IT.
His trainer Greg Anderson refused to testify and was in contempt for court forever because he wouldn't cross Bonds.
But anyone who read those docs knew he lied.
HE LIED ABOUT IT.
His trainer Greg Anderson refused to testify and was in contempt for court forever because he wouldn't cross Bonds.
But anyone who read those docs knew he lied.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
They're the ones dumb enough to get busted after the new rules were put in place. Them and several others who got busted. If you happen to caught nowadays I can feel sorry for you. I just can't. You can't use the "but baseball was lax on this" excuse. They're clearly not now. Can't use the "but everyone else is doing it" excuse either unless you're gonna start naming names. People get caught all the time. They just didn't have the resumes A-Rod, Manny and Palmeiro had. Everyone can else can at least say MLB was complicit.
It's not about being dumb in the first place. ARod failed no test. Biogenesis was incidental.
That's number one.
And number 2, yeah you can use the excuse that everyone else was (actually still is) doing it because they still are doing it.
It's basically what a comedian said about Lance Armstrong: our roided up guy beat your roided up guy.
But let's bring this back full circle.
The real main reason (aside from this PED hypocrisy) David Ortiz shouldn't be an automatic HOFer is because he was half a player.
Players are still taking PEDs.
Explain
And they're still beating tests.
And if you think this USADA or IOC style testing makes any difference....the IOC just had to ban a shyt load of athletes who got away with it in London and Sochi. So even as little as 2 years ago people are slipping through.
Baseball players are no different.
Cuz he's a big ol' Teddy bear. 
El Poyo Loco
Akrassikauda = Black Scorpion
People forgot how this whole thing blew up. The feds wanted Bonds to rat on Anderson and Bonds was not going to rat on his childhood friend. So the feds turn on Anderson to rat on Bonds, threw him in lockup even threatened his wife with jail time and Anderson still refused to rat on Bonds.
those two for not ratting on each other.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
how backwards is this country that they were spending time and money trying to put athletes in jail over juicing?People forgot how this whole thing blew up. The feds wanted Bonds to rat on Anderson and Bonds was not going to rat on his childhood friend. So the feds turn on Anderson to rat on Bonds, threw him in lockup even threatened his wife with jail time and Anderson still refused to rat on Bonds.
El Poyo Loco
Akrassikauda = Black Scorpion
Over a minor crime.