There's no other point than me pointing out the obvious, doggy. I was responding to you saying "Ya'll want to feel like it's us against the world so bad". I replied it's not that we want to feel this way. It just is.
why do blacks forcibly champion brown peoples issues?
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There's no other point than me pointing out the obvious, doggy. I was responding to you saying "Ya'll want to feel like it's us against the world so bad". I replied it's not that we want to feel this way. It just is.
They use that to gain support from the latino community who are also affected by these issues in order to encourage them to join forces. AND I RESPECT THAT. But my thing is dont act like you are in the trenches for their issues
JoseLuisGotcha
Aka Allhiphopsux
This thread is a generalization I know tons of Latinos that March for all causes especially the majority of college educated Latinos ...how can anyone make this statement without actually going to every protest and rally ....OP have you marched or organized marches cause I personally know Latinos I went to Temple with that travel all over the country to lead these marches
I feel you. It's a cold world out there. But we all face these issues. I just feel like it''s time we stop complaining and take action. Rather than complain about "oh poor us noone looks out for us" lets just DO. i have said this over and over in this thread: every group loks out for themselves. Why we need to keep mentioning how latinos only look out for their own is beyond me. We know it. MOVE ON
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
No one is complaining that latinos are looking for their own. In fact, we're all in agreement: each group does and should look out for their own. All OP was asking was why black people in the US look out for other groups more than others do for them. That's it.
I actually replied to your statement earlier. Here's my response below:
Almost every issue black folks are affected by the most (police brutality, the criminal justice system, systematic poverty and so on), many black leaders have mentioned "black and brown" or "black and latinos" in their speeches, rhetoric, or even plans of action.
When was the last time a latino with power and influence mentioned black immigrants in their speeches, rhetoric, and so on concerning immigration, an issue that specifically affects latinos the most?
What i hate is when you have people like tho OP who probably has never attended a protest or townhall meeting talking about white/latinos/foreign blacks not supporting black causes and ESPECIALLY saying this IN FRONT OF the latinos/whites (though minority) who HAVE supported black causes all their lives. Now when facing such ungratefulness i would completely understand if they STOPPED. But that would only give OP an additional person to prove his point.
Personally i know tis chick in Atlanta who is Panamanian and this brawd organizes/attends more protest and community meets to discuss black issues in the black community than any. But sure spit in her face because she happens to be half latina
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I can't speak for Latinos because it seems ya'll know the deal better than we do, but blacks need to keep mentioning it because blacks need to wake up and smell the coffee. A lot of us DON'T realize it. Hence why when discussing our plight many of our "leaders" love to frame it with "black and BROWN" people. The black and latino plight are not one in the same and they are not equivalent. We need to look out for our own interests and stop assuming that anyone who is non-white is pro-black. As you've highlighted, this generally isn't the case.
So what is your issue with blacks saying "let's focus on the issues of blacks and only blacks"? This is the same thing you are saying you're not mad at others doing but obviously have an issue with blacks doing being that this an 8pg thread of you disagreeing with those who are saying blacks need to worry about their own.
JoseLuisGotcha
Aka Allhiphopsux
Word nothing worse than complaining about something yet are not part of the solution...matter of fact most 1st & 2nd generation Latinos are the most political people you'd meet voting turnout in Latin america is extremely high ...plus with the Dream act issue you'll see tons of Latinos marching and protestors are a unique group of people many network and pul resources with other orgs so you'll cstch them at each others rallies ...
AGAIN, breh Im as black as the man you see in my avi.
I didnt disagree with black people dealing with their issues and looking out for themselves. My problem is with you saying black be in the trenches for other groups' issues. THAT-IS-NOT-THE-CASE. Black leaders will sometimes mention brown to encourage them to join forces when-it-is-an-issue-that-also-affects-them. But dont use that as if blacks are in the trenches with latinos on their own issues as if you are doing them a favor. I personally dont care much for latinos causes other than immigration which is one i can relate since i am an immigrant myself. But just because i side with them on THAT and support them on THAT does not mean im in trenches with them like you are saying
Oh. When you said "Ya'll" in that post I assumed you were Mexican. When people say "ya'll" in discussions I tend to think they aren't black. I usually go with "we" as to not come off as condescending and in opposition of my people. That's NOT a jab at you, but just something I personally do to make sure it's clear I see black problems in general as a my problem even if it doesn't directly affect me. It's good for cultivating a strong sense of community.
I can see where the confusion can come from since this was a racial discussion but in that case i was saying "y'all" addressing the paranoid clones in this thread.
I'm a black haitian immigrant if you need to categorize me since people always feel the need to.
I support black causes because.. well i'm black. However im not gonna sit here and agree with fools acting like we're doing latinos a favor by including them in our plight. Let's worry about issues with blacks. We can still be grateful to the few who support blacks but that nonsense of complaining 24/7 about others that DONT support us needs to stop. Again, every-group-look-out-for-themselves. THat is what should be expected. Anything else is appreciated but focus on what we CAN control
Sometimes i may address issues and make comments about black american and africans and other blacks and how they mistreat eachother among blacks but that's just when i feel it's within said groups.
Who said we are doing Latinos a favor? The point of thread is why are blacks always inclusive by default when nobody else is. The question being asked is why don't blacks address issues impacting us and only speak for BLACKS, I made the statement that if these issues impact others why don't blacks pass the Mic to each impacted group and let them,speak along with us.
Because black ppl dont have that collective community like Latinos whether you like it or not
Off bat Latinos dark or light can group together on the fact they speak Spanish...
Black ppl are the GOAT sympathizers... Been beat up throughout modern history... Displaced without language among other factors...
Also black people had the civil rights era... Basically its the brown ppl's turn, even though shyt still the same for black folks
what brown people issues do blacks champion? Im not up on current events and shyt like that