why do IT workers deserve 6 figs?

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The ride is going to come to an end for a lot of white collar jobs once they figure out how to automate it, outsource it, and farm the work out to teens/college kids.

That's the thing about the IT field...even if you start automating other jobs you're still gonna need IT people to program the automation. We here forever :blessed:

Granted in a few years Robotics/Mechanical Engineering will probably be the in - demand job...but I don't see IT phasing out anytime soon
 

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@McTwerk security sector is where it's at now. I wish i shifted focus that route long ago actually. I went 1 way my best friend went the security route, I can't complain but, hes eating much better then me these days and much easier days for him

Never too late breh. Security has many sectors within it, you could go a million different ways. AppSec, NetSec, Compliance, Risk, Governance, Auditing, etc. etc. Take the CISSP as a good all around intro to Security, covers 10 domains. (or Security+, which is entry level) I don't have a CISSP personally, but I am more hands on and technical. I have my CEH (Certified Ethical Hacker) and working on my OSCP (Offensive Security Certified Professional).

Conferences like DefCon, DerbyCon, BlackHat are great for networking and getting introduced to people who can help grow your career. Volunteer to edit tech papers, articles, books, help with a GitHub project (if you can code) etc. are all ways to get working in the Security sector. Just some of the things I have done to get to where I am at.....I am 36, been in security for 4 years and eat great brehs. :lawd:
 

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We just had a thread on here about IT outsourcing. Companies tried the whole outsourcing to India and are starting to bring those jobs back. I'll just link you to this thread where me and @bdizzle briefly went over it.

Best example I have is, when I was working the service desk, my company spent over a million dollars on a piece of software that was suppose to help users with their passwords ( Self service if it needed to be reset , sync your passwords across all systems etc ), I was legit worried and even asked our management, will they cut don't on the staff if this software works:sadbron:. Our call volume actually increased due to it and later we threw it out.:blessed:
Knowing the questions to ask is one of the things that allows high level consultants to charge such a high rate.
 

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Never too late breh. Security has many sectors within it, you could go a million different ways. AppSec, NetSec, Compliance, Risk, Governance, Auditing, etc. etc. Take the CISSP as a good all around intro to Security, covers 10 domains. (or Security+, which is entry level) I don't have a CISSP personally, but I am more hands on and technical. I have my CEH (Certified Ethical Hacker) and working on my OSCP (Offensive Security Certified Professional).

Conferences like DefCon, DerbyCon, BlackHat are great for networking and getting introduced to people who can help grow your career. Volunteer to edit tech papers, articles, books, help with a GitHub project (if you can code) etc. are all ways to get working in the Security sector. Just some of the things I have done to get to where I am at.....I am 36, been in security for 4 years and eat great brehs. :lawd:

I hear you bro, but I am not about that life it seems lol. I am 35 and been in it for 17 damn years! I feel like i should be retiring soon, you look at my resume you would think im 55 lol. I debating shifting focus all together and go into project management or something similar now. I am at a point now if I find something that involves computers but doesn't revolve solely around me, same pay+, and a decent company I would take it and ride it out. I don't think people understand or realize how stressful this job can be, they see the $$ being offered, and see us relaxed they think damn they are lucky, they don't know we perfected the art of "looking relaxed' during the middle of a crisis/fire :whew:

My boy has his CCIE and CISSP and he was stressing throughout the whole process, I am not sure if my heart can take that shyt anymore lol
 

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Because we solve problems, even the automated programs have issues from time to time and need someone to look at the logs to see why they fail. We don't just sit around and surf the web as you might think.
 

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I hear you bro, but I am not about that life it seems lol. I am 35 and been in it for 17 damn years! I feel like i should be retiring soon, you look at my resume you would think im 55 lol. I debating shifting focus all together and go into project management or something similar now. I am at a point now if I find something that involves computers but doesn't revolve solely around me, same pay+, and a decent company I would take it and ride it out. I don't think people understand or realize how stressful this job can be, they see the $$ being offered, and see us relaxed they think damn they are lucky, they don't know we perfected the art of "looking relaxed' during the middle of a crisis/fire :whew:

My boy has his CCIE and CISSP and he was stressing throughout the whole process, I am not sure if my heart can take that shyt anymore lol

:wow: i know your boy is eating good
 

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Because we can spell simple words like "sit"

I had my Networking instructor once tell me, The main goal of an IT manager, Network Admin, System Admin is to sit at your desk with your feet up. That is a sign that you are doing your job well. The ones running around like a psycho obviously don't have it under control. We are paid to fix things once broken, not to pretend being busy all day.

And don't confuse an old head that looks lazy in the IT world, with some young ass kid who is a geek with stats, specs and technical terms. When all hell breaks loose, you want the guy that's been there before and just gets it resolved. I have hired many jr sys admins under me that are young kids with amazing looking resumes, certs out the ass and seem very knowledgeable when you speak to them. They rarely last.

The smarter these kids get, the less they want to work. Most old school IT guys work more hours the 2 of these young bucks would work a week. Feet up 1 day, next day putting in 16 hours of extremely stressful work resolving important issues... no one talks about those days though. :sas2:


@McTwerk security sector is where it's at now. I wish i shifted focus that route long ago actually. I went 1 way my best friend went the security route, I can't complain but, hes eating much better then me these days and much easier days for him
Good post
 

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I hear you bro, but I am not about that life it seems lol. I am 35 and been in it for 17 damn years! I feel like i should be retiring soon, you look at my resume you would think im 55 lol. I debating shifting focus all together and go into project management or something similar now. I am at a point now if I find something that involves computers but doesn't revolve solely around me, same pay+, and a decent company I would take it and ride it out. I don't think people understand or realize how stressful this job can be, they see the $$ being offered, and see us relaxed they think damn they are lucky, they don't know we perfected the art of "looking relaxed' during the middle of a crisis/fire :whew:

My boy has his CCIE and CISSP and he was stressing throughout the whole process, I am not sure if my heart can take that shyt anymore lol
I have a host of cisco professional certs.

No IE yet but I'm working on it .


They have no clue.

I'm in my late 20's and 2 years MAX from being bald up top. Stressed out everday like a motherfukker
 

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That's the thing about the IT field...even if you start automating other jobs you're still gonna need IT people to program the automation. We here forever :blessed:

Granted in a few years Robotics/Mechanical Engineering will probably be the in - demand job...but I don't see IT phasing out anytime soon
I believe every job is dispensable that's why you have to get what you can get and negotiate top dollar when you are asking for a raise
 

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I think the main reason why IT folks get paid is because of their problem solving skills. Its pretty much a form of engineering. The part of IT that currently isn't automated is the translation of business requirements to actual code. Each new level of languages and tools are just building on top of older infrastructure so that the most common requirements can be generated by computer. We're not at a place where any random person with requirements can generate exactly what they need.

For older people that make money in IT and don't learn new technologies are in a predicament where the company is using some archaic system (Mainframe, Cobol, smh) that noone these days is learning. Or at least that's what I've seen.

But hey, if my job becomes automated and my IT skills become automated, I can always become a barber, or a farmer or something. I'll be fine either way.


Funny you say this. Just the other day I had to reboot a Lab PC and the PC didn't come back up. Had to go to the Mainframe room, first time in there and I straight up felt like I was in the movie " War Games". Damn machines were older than me. IBM still caking off the mainframe.
 

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Nope.

programming involves lots of math. If college kids are going to love math all of a sudden, I'm all for it.

It will advance civilization to unseen levels

uhhhhhhhhh lmao :laff:


you realize that computers are way more efficient at math than humans... their whole fukking makeup is an algorithm :laff: swing and a miss
 

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uhhhhhhhhh lmao :laff:


you realize that computers are way more efficient at math than humans... their whole fukking makeup is an algorithm :laff: swing and a miss

Yea I am not gonna lie, I kinda passed that dudes reply on purpose heh
 
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