Why do other races expect us to back them up in fights that aren't ours?

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Because we also do. Every time there's shyt going on with other races docile Negroes also wanna step to the forefront and show solidarity so other races expect it now.
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You don't see asian doing that shyt.
Asians I dislike it, but I have to respect how much of an opportunist they are. They only act when there’s something for them to gain. Otherwise they quietly toe the line and play go along to get along.

If you study their history that’s how they have always moved.
 

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Well, two things.

1. I really don't think anyone is expecting you to do anything. I think people just cherry pick some random idiot begging for some other race of people for support and people just extrapolate that to assume ALL the people of that race are demanding your help.

2. It kind of depends how you define "your fight". Because one of the things a lot of people learn the hard way is that most problems aren't confined to one specific group of people. Bigotry, racism, income disparity, healthcare, police brutality, terrorism, gun violence...these things affect everyone. And history shows that if it doesn't affect one group at the moment, it almost definitely affects them eventually if not addressed.

So you know...people can respond with their usual "I aint trying to hear all that shyt..." but that's part of the problem.

I don't think it's incumbent on any one group to save the country, but I don't necessarily think neutrality works either.
 

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Well, two things.

1. I really don't think anyone is expecting you to do anything. I think people just cherry pick some random idiot begging for some other race of people for support and people just extrapolate that to assume ALL the people of that race are demanding your help.

2. It kind of depends how you define "your fight". Because one of the things a lot of people learn the hard way is that most problems aren't confined to one specific group of people. Bigotry, racism, income disparity, healthcare, police brutality, terrorism, gun violence...these things affect everyone. And history shows that if it doesn't affect one group at the moment, it almost definitely affects them eventually if not addressed.

So you know...people can respond with their usual "I aint trying to hear all that shyt..." but that's part of the problem.

I don't think it's incumbent on any one group to save the country, but I don't necessarily think neutrality works either.
I agree with what you said for the most part. Your second point needs a bit of clarification, though. Black Americans in particular have historically been fighting for everyone here in the U.S. What we have found is that when we turn around, we are rarely, if ever, given the same effort back by others that we gave them. What has happened is that our issues have festered and boiled over while we were using up our energy defending others who did not reciprocate.

Yes, a few here and there can be seen stepping up, or even many may come out for particularly heinous issues. Still, issues that would help us long-term, and get us back on our feet as a people, have suffered—and have even sometimes been fought against by the very same people who benefitted from our efforts to make the U.S. a more equitable nation.

So what is being seen now is that many in my ethnicity are deciding to focus on ourselves directly, deal with issues that directly affect us, and allow other groups, who did not align with us when times were good for them, to deal with their own issues now that times are bad for them. Most of us recognize that times have never truly been good for our ethnicity, but now we are focusing all of our energy and efforts on ourselves.

We quite frankly have our own issues that should have our primary focus.
 

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I agree with what you said for the most part. Your second point needs a bit of clarification, though. Black Americans in particular have historically been fighting for everyone here in the U.S. What we have found is that when we turn around, we are rarely, if ever, given the same effort back by others that we gave them. What has happened is that our issues have festered and boiled over while we were using up our energy defending others who did not reciprocate.

Yes, a few here and there can be seen stepping up, or even many may come out for particularly heinous issues. Still, issues that would help us long-term, and get us back on our feet as a people, have suffered—and have even sometimes been fought against by the very same people who benefitted from our efforts to make the U.S. a more equitable nation.

So what is being seen now is that many in my ethnicity are deciding to focus on ourselves directly, deal with issues that directly affect us, and allow other groups, who did not align with us when times were good for them, to deal with their own issues now that times are bad for them. Most of us recognize that times have never truly been good for our ethnicity, but now we are focusing all of our energy and efforts on ourselves.

We quite frankly have our own issues that should have our primary focus.
The rights that black people fought to get...every other minority group has benefited from. That's kind of the starting point.
So if some gay person or latino person or asian person sat on the sidelines in the 1950s and 1960s thinking "this isn't our fight"....I think that was a misguided position to take. Because it kind of WAS your fight. And now they all enjoy the fruits of that struggle.

And I think that's relatively true even today with other issues.
 

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The rights that black people fought to get...every other minority group has benefited from. That's kind of the starting point.
So if some gay person or latino person or asian person sat on the sidelines in the 1950s and 1960s thinking "this isn't our fight"....I think that was a misguided position to take. Because it kind of WAS your fight. And now they all enjoy the fruits of that struggle.

And I think that's relatively true even today with other issues.
Yes, and that was the case that happened. While my ancestors were fighting, many others were sitting on the side-lines. Some working against or working to make sure they were not seen like us. Now they benefit from that, yet many of them still thumb their noses at us.

Though, the part I bolded does not carry over to all issues. Illegal immigration is an issue, but it is not one Black Americans should be in favor of. I have put up reports to congress and economic studies that show what harm it has done to the US citizens, especially the 6/10 Black American men who have to compete with the illegals for those jobs in manufacturing and construction.

So while Trump and his economic and social policies are a problem for all, the removal of illegals is actually a boon for my ethnicity economically.
 
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Can you name examples of other races voicing this expectation or are you just trying to emulate white grievance and made this up in your head?

Did these other races have a meeting where they got together and called upon black people to back them up in a fight that isn’t theirs? Did they issue a press release? Were there marches? Because so far, I have never been confronted with this expectation.
 

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To be frank, when I was experiencing targeted abuse at my school. My mum's friend put her to a Pakistani agency and the man put his foot on the school's neck.

It's another exhibit in my life of the cowardice in the heart of racists. Grown men and women tormenting a child with joy, squirming when someone read through their bullshyt and forced them to answer for it.

My approach has always been to see how they move. If I've concluded that they tried to benefit from white supremacy, my door will be closed to them.
 

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Because the see us as their slaves.

You know how there is always some random Blk person sacrificing themselves for white people in movies. Yeah, they really believe that in our job.

Also a lot of people are cowards. Blk people, especially BW, tend to be a bit more bold to a certain extent. Since we're "at the bottom" of society it gives us a lot of freedom when it comes to self expression. Being "higher" in the ranks of society constricts self-expression which is why so many races look to us for creativity and inspiration.

A lot of people "admire" this "freedom." BW in particular are often see as "motherly" for negative reasons but also because of the admiration and the ability to be bold.

I tell my direct reports on a weekly basis that I'm not their mom. Honestly as a BW in leadership you have to be "mean" to a certain extent because people will start to see you as their caregiver really quickly if you let them.

The sheer audacity of people and their entitlement to your existence, it's mind blowing.
 
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