Why do people claim “hip hop is dead”?

[NotaPAWG]

because majority of mainstream rap lacks what they think is skill, knowledge, creativity, etc?

once RAP music became mainstream, it no longer was sub and counter culture.

hip hop was and is a subculture that was a biproduct and form of protest in defiance of the mainstream and “norm”. it inherently was never supposed to be THE mainstream because it was a protest, ironically a protest of the very thing many hip hop heads use as a measuring stick to define weather it is alive or not

every single city, at least ones with a black community or residents that are making hip hop music, involved in bringing people together every week, wether it’s a huge venue or a basement with no name rappers etc are making hip hop and involved in its subculture, it doesn’t matter if we haven’t heard of them. they are.

hip hop shouldn’t be a reflection of mainstream culture, it should be a reflection of the local towns and communities that are making it because that’s where and how it started

so why is it that so called hip hop purists keep using the mainstream to define its aliveness by referring to the mainstream when hip hop was inherently a byproduct of protest and in defiance of the mainstream?

places like NY right now, LA and Atlanta they have thriving SUBCULTURES of rappers most of us probably don’t even exist, but they do. and the people involved in those said local communities know and involved do. hip hop was a movement of local communities bridging together. it had very little to do with the mainstream until labels and money got involved.

 

[thekingsmen]

Facts and Im a Hiphop Purist but I continue to listen to new indy artists

 

[75 Others]

hip hop died, and mumblemania arose from the ashes

 

[TheDarkCloud]

I agree. Hip Hop is only dead in the mainstream. There’s no representation of real hip hop on the charts. But it wasn’t always like this. Back in the 90s, there was a balance. You had quality shyt and ignorant shyt getting equal shine. Nowadays, not so much.

 

[Eastwoodjones]

"Hip Hop the way I like it is dead" is always a true statement... Cats think that all these artists are supposed to cater to their personal desires.

 

[NotaPAWG]

hip hop died, and mumblemania arose from the ashes

hip hop didn’t die, though. it’s underground, that’s the point many who make that claim miss.

as long as there’s still independent artists putting on for their local communities, local promoters and artists coming together to put on their own shows, it exists.

was hip hop dead in the 70s and early 80s in new york before it blew up because it was local?

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

Cause Nas said it

 

[NotaPAWG]

I agree. Hip Hop is only dead in the mainstream. There’s no representation of real hip hop on the charts. But it wasn’t always like this. Back in the 90s, there was a balance. You had quality shyt and ignorant shyt getting equal shine. Nowadays, not so much.

but even then, a lot of mainstream artists and cats that were preaching knowledge were being funded by rich jews and eventually the money involved led to the water down of it in in the mainstream anyways. cause and affect. labels and rich whites saw what they could do, they allowed and funded the Public Enemies etc because their end game is what we have now... they figured they’d fund the knowledgeable and educational rap cause they foresaw the affect the money that was being pumped in the culture would have.

 

[75 Others]

hip hop didn’t die, though. it’s underground, that’s the point many who make that claim miss.

as long as there’s still independent artists putting on for their local communities, local promoters and artists coming together to put on their own shows, it exists.

was hip hop dead in the 70s and early 80s in new york before it blew up because it was local?

Correct, but at the sam time one shouldn't have to dig into the catacombs of music to find "hip hop". "you not looking hard enough" should not be used when someone says hip hop is dead

 

[At30wecashout]

Hip hop is more than the music. 4 elements, remember?

When speaking of hip hop being dead, I think of the culture that birthed the music and not just the music. The respect for elders and the roots, pushing to enchance the craft with beats and emceeing, etc.

There are things we grew up with that just upped and died, so the art looks different entirely. Now the music was always diverse, catering to different tastes, but the mainstream influence has long since trickled to the underground.

 

[NotaPAWG]

Correct, but at the sam time one shouldn't have to dig into the catacombs of music to find "hip hop". "you not looking hard enough" should not be used when someone says hip hop is dead

why not? that’s how independent music and subcultures operate.. in fact the searching of music, and the art of sampling was crate digging. people searching hard and looking.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

Because people still (I HAVE NO IDEA HOW) listen to the radio which pushes out garbage on purpose because there are only 6 companies involved they have a monopoly on radio play they are also racist so its not their intention to play REAL hip hop which is REVOLUTION music by default.

They want no revolution. So they bought the radio and are working to end the internet for poor people.

Hope that helped.

Here is a chart you can look at radio is towards the bottom.

http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

Have a nice day.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

Bumping so people can learn something and stop asking the same questions over and over again.

 

[PhonZhi]

Because hip-hop is no longer a tool to uplift, motivate, inspire, and REVOLUTIONALIZE the black masses.

That tool has been equalized and is now being used AGAINST black people:



Like others have already said, atleast there was a balance. That balance has dramatically shifted for the worse now.

You got rappers who make songs titled "My Choppa Hates Nikkaz" being given the biggest platforms to influence now.

Hip-hop is now the #1 tool being used to help destroy the psyche and also the image/reputation of blacks worldwide. This is why the mainstream is so important. Hip-hop is the #1 lens through which the world views black people. What's put out via mainstream is extremely important since "media propaganda" is one of the most effective tactics of systemic oppression:




If you're reading this post and you're not black, the words I type may not register with you since hip-hop is not being used to demonize your specific group of people.


Peace

 

[Dominic Decoco]

Discuss hip-hop with a cac female, militant brehs.