Why do people dismiss those with certain degrees?

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The majority of my college friends were electric or mechanical engineers. The rest seemed to either be pre-med or some variation of business. I went business, and we all expected to be better off than those who didn't pick a STEM or business major.

Ppl always look down on liberal arts because they say "it doesn't prepare them for life after college, there's no jobs, not specialized".

Yet all my friends who went the sociology/psychology/kinesiology are doing just as well as the other graduates. Where it took 5 to 6 years to major in business or engineering. Sociology/economics/other lib arts majors were done in 4 years, went straight to grad school and got their masters in the same time.

Some of them even were smart and got certs, or developed portfolios/ interned in fields that are more respected and got their masters in great fields.

Sometimes I wish I went lib arts for this reason. Why the hate for lib arts if you can advance faster and still get the same result?
 

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Ppl always look down on liberal arts because they say "it doesn't prepare them for life after college, there's no jobs, not specialized".

^because of this.

Yet all my friends who went the sociology/psychology/kinesiology are doing just as well as the other graduates. Where it took 5 to 6 years to major in business or engineering. Sociology/economics/other lib arts majors were done in 4 years, went straight to grad school and got their masters in the same time.

Some of them even were smart and got certs, or developed portfolios/ interned in fields that are more respected and got their masters in great fields.

Most don't do this.
 

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On average, people that majored in business/engineering/medical get career positions faster than someone with a liberal arts degree. There is more upside and they usually earn more money

The debt crisis and student loans are too high for someone to be fukkin around with a liberal arts degree in my opinion
 

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On average, people that majored in business/engineering/medical get career positions faster than someone with a liberal arts degree.

Student loans are too high for someone to be fukkin around with a liberal arts degree in my opinion
So these ppl were lucky?

What if they go and get their masters immediately after in a field like engineering or accounting or marketing, like these guys did.
 

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So these ppl were lucky?

What if they go and get their masters immediately after in a field like engineering or accounting or marketing, like these guys did.

Honestly, in my opinion, a masters is a waste of time unless you have solid work experience to back it up. The workplace values experience over a masters degree. People get their bachelor's and then go straight to grad school because they think that's what they are supposed to do, only to be unemployed because employers don't really care
 

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Liberal arts degree work IF they get a masters in something in finance...
Only finance?
My peers went on to accounting, marketing and some did advertising. Some even mastered in various engineering.

Why finance and not others?
On average, people that majored in business/engineering/medical get career positions faster than someone with a liberal arts degree. There is more upside and they usually earn more money

The debt crisis and student loans are too high for someone to be fukkin around with a liberal arts degree in my opinion

Also if they spent 4 years in undergrad compared to my 5.5 then aren't we even? I have no masters either...
 

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Far too many people don't know what the shyt they're doing in college and wind up with debt and degrees that are near wothless relative to what they could have done.

OP, you defeat your point by adding the fact that they had to get a masters or certs to just as well.

And if it took your engineering friends 6 years to get their bachelors, that speaks more to them personally and less to the program. Its a 4 year program, if you fukk it up its on you.
 

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Far too many people don't know what the shyt they're doing in college and wind up with debt and degrees that are near wothless relative to what they could have done.

OP, you defeat your point by adding the fact that they had to get a masters or certs to just as well.

And if it took your engineering friends 6 years to get their bachelors, that speaks more to them personally and less to the program. Its a 4 year program, if you fukk it up its on you.

Maybe my situation is different being I go to s public Ivy League. My UNI sone business and all ebgineeribg/comp science are 5+ year programs.

Perhaps these ppl did well with lib arts because the school and the college is highly ranked and prestigious.
 

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Maybe my situation is different being I go to s public Ivy League. My UNI sone business and all ebgineeribg/comp science are 5+ year programs.

Perhaps these ppl did well with lib arts because the school and the college is highly ranked and prestigious.

What university do you go to?

And no shyt it matters.... :snoop:


I can already guess you go to UNC or UF
 

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Idk about the US, but in the UK the grade you achieve and uni you go to takes precedence over degree type for employers.

To me, not everyone can do a specialist degree I.e. One that will lead directly to career e.g. Engineering, accountancy, medicine or law. Therefore an academic degree like History of Philosophy isn't bad at all providing you go to a great uni and have good prior work experience and obviously achieve a high grade.

However I think a degree like liberal arts or mother bearing or whatever it's called is a step too far in terms of being not taken seriously. There is a limit.
 

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I think it largely depends on the individual as college really isn't for everybody no matter how intelligent a person may or may not appear to be. I think a disproportionate amount of folks who attend a university with the goal of a liberal arts degree lack foundation and direction, hence their trajectory takes them somewhere that other people tend to smirk upon. It's like the old saying "if you fail to plan, you plan to fail." Part of that I think is what's typical to youth, trying to find themselves during one's twenties. Most people if not held by the hand and mentored, are going to float about during those years of their life. In addition this culture and business that's called Higher Education, has everyone fooled thinking they have to go to a university in order to achieve minimal success in today's market. While it's true that some schooling is needed, it can't just be any schooling, and it really depends on the individual. I know quite a few people who shunned the college experience for a trade school and are doing better in life than many college graduates.

Something else too, beyond even comparing the financial success between folks with specific degrees vs. a liberal arts degree, one only needs to listen briefly on a social level to the thoughts of the latter and come away unimpressed. Look at Twitter, and see all the modern day feminists and other activists and realize there is a fundamental difference between the weight of someone with a specific degree in tune with business, tech, or otherwise vs. a liberal arts degree. The same can be said with someone with a trade and proper papers in electrical, plumbing, tool and die, etc. vs. someone space cadet with a liberal arts degree. And to be fair, again that doesn't apply to everyone with a liberal arts degree, just the ones who stand out.
 
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