Why do people on social media use this argument when discussing abortion?

[LurkMoar]

You're not fighting it either, you can't even keep your bullshyt statistics straight.

Is it 30 million or 15 million?

does it matter to you? whatever the numbers you dont care you good with being an oppressed minority




Since 1960, the nation's Latino population has increased nearly ninefold, from 6.3 million then to 55.3 million by 2014. It is projected to grow to 119 million by 2060, according to the latest projections from the U.S. Census Bureau (2014)




Nikkas lost

 

[Black Cobain]

OR maybe the person has a strong moral/religious obligation to think otherwise. Maybe the person isn't getting "laid" like that because they choose to not engage in those activities.

I'm just saying that people throw these personal attacks in a weak attempt to undermine the opponent's argument. Maybe it's the debater in me that hates this.

I do agree that some do people do want to control women as they shouldn't though, but I don't think government should force others to pay for it.

Also to @FmrToken, who cares? Well it's a discussion on a hypothetical so clearly both people who engage in it care.

Who cares as in the general stance of being against pro-choice, it would be like making someone keep a malignant or benignant tumor, they don't want what's in their bodies and should not have a say with what they do with theirs.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

does it matter to you? whatever the numbers you dont care you good with being an oppressed minority




Since 1960, the nation's Latino population has increased nearly ninefold, from 6.3 million then to 55.3 million by 2014. It is projected to grow to 119 million by 2060, according to the latest projections from the U.S. Census Bureau (2014)




Nikkas lost

We're talking abortion rates nikka, stop acting obtuse, think for once. I clearly bolded what I did for a reason.

 

[Doobie Doo]

I see i hit a nerve here huh




look how many quotes im getting from these nikkas



Nikkas love killing black babies

Dudes love saying this weak ass comeback line.

"Because you disagree with me you must be in your feelings"

People love hoping on this message board saying stupid shyt and getting mad when you check them cry baby ass dude

 

[Dr. Acula]

Im not even gonna bring out all the facts for your ass, lets just look at the numbers game.



30 million black babies aborted, meanwhile blacks are also the poorest and most oppressed race in America.



Keep your population low so you can continue to be an oppressed minority brehs , if the black population in America was 30% instead of 13% it would be a different America i guarantee it.





Latinos got the formula and they about to have a major come up in the next 40 years cacs dying off and pedro got next

My common response to this is look at Apartheid South Africa and look at the south during slavery and Jim Crow. In both cases, Blacks outnumbered whites in raw numbers by vast margins (in south africa, by 90% and in the South by 66% in a lot of cases). This did not stop oppression as the system itself was set up to keep these populations under thumb.

Conversely, Jewish people make up less than 2% of the population and seem to have more power representation in this country than blacks.

Not that numbers don't have any value, but its not the end all be all.

The last thing we need to build up community power are people who shouldn't have kids, having kids because of someone else's desire to dictate morality.

Quality over quantity. I can get all the wood I want to build a mansion with multiple rooms. Does it do me any good if all that wood is rotted and damp? On the other hand, I can source and search for good lumber and good materials that is worth more in each piece but allow me to build a stable family home that will last a long time.

Family planning for example allows a woman to put off having a child at maybe a more stable time in their life, if they get knocked up at 15. In the time they bought, they can get an education, become more mature mentally, and maybe have time to find a more suitable partner. Then they have a kid who has the right support it needs to grow up to be a great human being.

THIS IS ALL ignoring women who may get abortion for medical reasons or being the victim of a crime.

 

[LurkMoar]

Dudes love saying this weak ass comeback line.

"Because you disagree with me you must be in your feelings"

People love hoping on this message board saying stupid shyt and getting mad when you check them cry baby ass dude

Nah i clearly hit a nerve for nikkas on here, had 5 quotes almost instantly

 

[cam>]

I've never seen this.

Any examples????????????????????

 

[LurkMoar]

My common response to this is look at Apartheid South Africa and look at the south during slavery and Jim Crow. In both cases, Blacks outnumbered whites in raw numbers by vast margins (in south africa, by 90% and in the South by 66% in a lot of cases). This did not stop oppression as the system itself was set up to keep these populations under thumb.

Conversely, Jewish people make up less than 2% of the population and seem to have more power representation in this country than blacks.

Not that numbers don't have any value, but its not the end all be all.

The last thing we need to build up community power are people who shouldn't have kids, having kids because of someone else's desire to dictate morality.

Quality over quantity. I can get all the wood I want to build a mansion with multiple rooms. Does it do me any good if all that wood is rotted and damp? On the other hand, I can source and search for good lumber and good materials that is worth more in each piece but allow me to build a stable family home that will last a long time.

Family planning for example allows a woman to put off having a child at maybe a more stable time in their life, if they get knocked up at 15. In the time they bought, they can get an education, become more mature mentally, and maybe have time to find a more suitable partner. Then they have a kid who has the right support it needs to grow up to be a great human being.

THIS IS ALL ignoring women who may get abortion for medical reasons or being the victim of a crime.

95% of abortions are done out of convenience, and im low balling the number.



And what exactly do you mean quality over quantity? do you think poor blacks should reproduce less? what gives them less of a right to do so? because they have bad environments? How is this different from the other minorities that have grown their populations?

We live in a representative democracy, as in we can get people to represent OUR INTEREST AND NEEDS. Now in this sort of situation should we not be doing everything in our power to increase our representative power and influence in this country? Jews and other minorities dont have the history of African Americans in America, there's a reason our people are at the bottom of the totem pole. We were put in the bottom and have stayed there, our population has been kept in check either intentionally or unintentionally as well this cannot be argued.

 

[wickedsm]

I've never seen this.

Any examples????????????????????

*sits next to @cam and waits*

 

[queenblaq]

I really don't get it if you don't agree with abortion don't get one it's that simple

what these other females choose to do it's their choice It's not your body

Half of y'all on here aren't even fit to be parents anyway

On the other hand there needs to be more knowledge on birth control options (there's so many and I see grown woman/men to this day only think there's only condoms and pills)

 

[Dr. Acula]

95% of abortions are done out of convenience, and im low balling the number.



And what exactly do you mean quality over quantity? do you think poor blacks should reproduce less? what gives them less of a right to do so? because they have bad environments? How is this different from the other minorities that have grown their populations?

We live in a representative democracy, as in we can get people to represent OUR INTEREST AND NEEDS. Now in this sort of situation should we not be doing everything in our power to increase our representative power and influence in this country? Jews and other minorities dont have the history of African Americans in America, there's a reason our people are at the bottom of the totem pole. We were put in the bottom and have stayed there, our population has been kept in check either intentionally or unintentionally as well this cannot be argued.

Not going to debate the number because I have serious doubts though I'm sure you can pull some sources to support it. Whether the sources are good I would have to see them. Also next you need to define "convenience"? Very vague term and I imagine if I was a certain political biased pollster, I can frame or reinterpret a variety of responses under the vague umbrella of "convenience".

Never said poor black should reproduce less or that poor people can't raise great kids. However, I also believe if a woman is currently living below the poverty line, has two kids already, struggling pay check to paycheck and know that bringing another child into the world for example is going to be an undue hardship, then I believe in her right to chose to terminate the pregnancy. This is just one possible scenario. If a woman has no child but has far enough foresight to realize that their current situation can not afford a child and they decide to terminate the pregnancy, I support that too. If she decides to keep the kid in both cases, more power to her. Even further, I'm sure there are plenty of people in that situation who can still raise good kids. I have people in my family who turned out fine in such situations. However you can't ignore the statistical likelihoods here either.

Your last sentence ignores the point I mentioned about areas where black populations have vastly exceeds the white minorities and just simply having numbers did not prevent oppression. Here in the united states, to counteract the fact you had southern states with sizeable black populations which would have resulted in more representives in congress from southern states due to larger populations, they just decided to declare blacks as 3/5ths and reduce their representative power.

You agree with me that its the system that determines how people are represented. As you said, jews and other minorities don't have a history of this country actively working to oppress them. You seem to believe this has gone away. I don't. Especially given that you have the system rigged against blacks by trying to gerrymander them into few districts to minimize their overall representation. That is happening TODAY.

 

[BrothaZay]

If you black and pro abortion you a c00n. FACTS.

I used to say that until i nutted in my crazy ass ex and had to get a plan b

 

[Trill McClay]

Brehs and brehettes on here support abortion?

 

[b_low_brown]

If you black and pro abortion you a c00n. FACTS.

Coli logic for literally everything be like

 

[LurkMoar]

Brehs and brehettes on here support abortion?

But nikkas militants in every other thread wishing death on krakkas