Pac was a great artist, Nas the GOAT mc period.
Why do people think Tupac was an amazing mc/rapper?
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pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
love nas i do but he ain't better then pac when it comes spitting raw complex lyrics period.
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
Technical Complexity/Metaphors etc etc. is poetry/artistry though
Pac Stans always have to resort to something about "the feeling" and be totally reductionist towards skill in rap.
He's a good songwriter, but just because someone doesn't see what's so great about him that doesn't mean they're a "cac" or that they're "obsessed with technical analysis" or re "weirdos", you're totally reading into that guys post far beyond what he actually said.
All that needs to be said right here.
PAC is NOT an elite rapper.
Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
Heart of a Solider with a brain to teach a Whole Nation 
.......The GOAT
.......The GOAT
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
Technical Complexity/Metaphors etc etc. is poetry/artistry though
Pac Stans always have to resort to something about "the feeling" and be totally reductionist towards skill in rap.
He's a good songwriter, but just because someone doesn't see what's so great about him that doesn't mean they're a "cac" or that they're "obsessed with technical analysis" or re "weirdos", you're totally reading into that guys post far beyond what he actually said.
lol its artistry sure, but one that's been replicated a 1000 times and has NOT stood the test of time
Collect all of them and put them together and Pac probably dropped more classic material in his last 24 months than all of them put together
Theres a million punchline rappers out there with a hot 16 to their name, theres only ONE PAC
You think people are listening to fabulous or jadakiss punchlines 20 years from now?
And youre confusing what one PREFERS with an objective like recognition of a persons greatness
you are more than welcome, as some one who prefers more technical lyricism than poetic lyricism, to say youre not a big pac fan. That's your right, no one can take that away from you. You would rather listen to a canibus or jadakiss than scarface or cube, that's cool.
But that's not what Pac haters do. They legitimately try to diminish his greatness and stature by imposing their metrics
"HOW CAN PAC BE THE GOAT WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE ANY PUNCLINES"
that's the goofy shyt im talking about
You pac stans delusional af...you mean like this: Thug, drug, crack sale, black male, packed jail, Glock, pac, henessy, enemies, remedy, friend of me?
Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
See you homosexuals and devils have no Souls and don't understand the God.....Pac always written his rhymes coming from a Poets Mind and the structure he wrote his rhymes on paper is how Poets write.......Pac is a Poet
True Sinister
Banned
Because of his flow, delivery, work rate, stage presence, beat selection, energy, his ability to do double perfectly, his ability to one take verses, his ability to balance depth with simplicity etc
How are Jada and Canibus in the same category.lol its artistry sure, but one that's been replicated a 1000 times and has NOT stood the test of time
Collect all of them and put them together and Pac probably dropped more classic material in his last 24 months than all of them put together
Theres a million punchline rappers out there with a hot 16 to their name, theres only ONE PAC
You think people are listening to fabulous or jadakiss punchlines 20 years from now?
And youre confusing what one PREFERS with an objective like recognition of a persons greatness
you are more than welcome, as some one who prefers more technical lyricism than poetic lyricism, to say youre not a big pac fan. That's your right, no one can take that away from you. You would rather listen to a canibus or jadakiss than scarface or cube, that's cool.
But that's not what Pac haters do. They legitimately try to diminish his greatness and stature by imposing their metrics
"HOW CAN PAC BE THE GOAT WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE ANY PUNCLINES"
that's the goofy shyt im talking about
Bis never pulled up in the Aston the color of dandruff.
Hungry Rabbit
Pro
What makes Tupac one of the GOATs is his work ethic, impact on the culture, the versatility of his music, and the way in which he delivered his verses which such flow and/or venom depending on the song. His stage presence was second to none.
It is what it is
It is what it is
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pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
lmao u just keeping proving the fact u don't know what u talking about ?
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
What makes Tupac one of the GOATs is his work ethic, impact on the culture, the versatility of his music, and the way in which he delivered his verses which such flow and/or venom depending on the song. His stage presence was second to none.
It is what it is
and his lyrical ability it's once thing to say he was not the greatest lyricist ok fine i could live with that even though i disagree with that as well
but to say he was not lyrical when people have no proof it is just asinine imo personally.
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MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
So Pac outsold all his peers...was by far the most prolific.Rappers from that era who're still alive have had a 20+ year surplus
and still have yet to close the gap.
I'm not surprised, tho.
The spirituality/consciousness has shifted over more to the superficial side.
Everything is over-analyzed these days.
Hungry Rabbit
Pro
I agree. Pac is my favorite rapper of all time, but IMO he's not the greatest lyrical rapper ever - although he certainly could be lyrical. His raw delivery and the game he dropped is what makes him the GOAT to me.
To those doubting his lyrical abilities, check out "Ballad of a Dead Soulja," "Cant C Me," "Deadly Combination," "Untouchable," and "Scared Straight."
He fukkin murders these tracks, frfr
