why do people throw Kanye in their Top 5 with the likes of Nas, Jay, Pac, Big, etc....

[The Ruler 09]

One of the early posts are right cause tbh I don't see myself listening to krs one or rakim.. Even more so scarface..

Outdated raps to me I don't find appealing.

That isn't really the point, if you wanna talk about your top 5 favourites, you can pick WHOEVER you want, I don't mind if you pick Vanilla Ice, Drake, Kanye, Gucci, Lil B as your top 5, that's your absolute right. But when you start talking about BEST that's a different subject and requires more objectivity, and objectively KRS-One and Rakim are better than Kanye and all the others I mentioned. As is Face. Outdated and old aren't the same thing, the real and the truth can never be outdated, that's why people still fukk with and salute what they did and do today. They are so ahead of their time they will never be outdated, Kanye is outdated because he's doing shyt that was done before in like the 80's lol. That's what's REALLY outdated, with the whole voice effects shyt which was ALREADY done. But like I said, like what you like, that's your right and you can have your favourites, but when you start speaking about greatest or best that's gonna get challenged, but if you said favourites that's just fair enough, might disagree with your taste, but can't really argue against favourites...

 

[JCalli]

Funny thing is, a lot of people I see on Drake d*ck are the same people on Kayne d*ck. This can only mean one thing, it's youngin's that do this.

I'd be in utter disbelief if someone over the age of 30 put Kayne in their top 5. Only way that is possible is if they didn't listen to hip hop growing up.

So to answer the question directly, he has been the most popular artist during them coming of age and synonymous with their time getting into and listening to hip hop.

 

[torcher]

I liked Kanyes 1st 2 albums but to me he's overrated and is the perfect example of sumbody being praised just for bein weird. I do understand him bein in the younger generations top 5 though just based off of what they comparing him to

 

[Big Woadie]

I'd be in utter disbelief if someone over the age of 30 put Kayne in their top 5. Only way that is possible is if they didn't listen to hip hop growing up.

 

[No1]

Kanye's discography has been stronger than any other premier rapper over the past 10 years so if you're in your 20s then...it's very likely.

CD, LR, Graduation, MBDTF. No other rapper has that track record from 04 to 2010. And a lot of people liked the 808s album too. So there goes your answer.

 

[Xcoyote]

I am not an avid Kanye West fan but i dont see why he shouldnt be up there,whatever skills he lacks as an Emcee,he makes up tenfold with his production.

 

[JCalli]

Are you 30 or above and have Kayne in your top 5?

 

[Big Woadie]

Are you 30 or above and have Kayne in your top 5?

I just turnt 30 and Kanye's the only rapper I'm aware of.

Are there any more?

 

[The Ruler 09]

Here's the thing - I respect that people are gonna have their favorites based on what era they grew up on. But if you come at me as a 'hip hop fan', and you haven't done your homework, I can't take you seriously.

I'm 30. The very first rap album I remember loving as a kid was "The Funky Headhunter". Because my dad played it. When I started listening to rap on my own, the first album that really put me into hip hop was "Harlem World". This was 1997. I LOVED that album.

Just because you grew up in an era doesn't make that era the best. My era is technically 97-2004. But having done my homework, my favorite era is 93-2000. Particularly 93-97.

If you consider yourself a hip hop fan, you owe it to yourself to go back and listen to what the genre has offered. Really take it in and understand each era. I have OGs who put me on to stuff pre-1985. I believe I've heard most major recordings from 1980 onwards. Or at least have an idea of why Run DMC were so influential, and how they were different from Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.

The great thing about hip hop is that it gets surprisingly easy to figure out who was really dope and who was not so dope. The classics jump out at you. Nobody hears "Top Billin" and thinks: 'yeah, this record sucks'. Or The Bridge. Or Freaks Come Out At Night. whatever.

and the only reason why 80s rappers get short-changed (though the 80s blended into the 90s and OGs I know consider the 80s/90s to be very closely linked) is because their careers were shorter. and the great 90s rappers who came after them really did their homework, so it became hard for them to compete. Can you really say Nas is iller than KRS-One? No. But Nas has had a longer career than KRS, had access to more amazing producers, and thus has made more bangers. If we were to compile a list of superb tracks, Nas would have more. That doesn't take anything away from KRS; he dropped amazing music in his time.

While I don't agree with every single part of this I think it's a very good post. You said a lot of real shyt. Rep'd.

 

[Big Woadie]

Kanye's discography has been stronger than any other premier rapper over the past 10 years so if you're in your 20s then...it's very likely.

CD, LR, Graduation, MBDTF. No other rapper has that track record from 04 to 2010. And a lot of people liked the 808s album too. So there goes your answer.

Don't even bother to explain it to these rinse-repeat fakkits.

Let them have their cookie cutter radio-friendly my girlfriend cosigns r&b thugs (Canuck Ashkenazi), or coke rappers, or battle rappers, or "Im old but still rich my watch is X and my pants are Y I'm 50 years old but rap like 20 cos 50 is the new 40" (Fakkit from Marcy)

Let em have the cookie cutter show.


Kanye the only dude in mainstream whitey/jew music industry with genuine drive, passion and audacity / creativity.

 

[JCalli]

I just turnt 30 and Kanye's the only rapper I'm aware of.

Are there any more?

Do you breh

 

[Big Woadie]

Do you breh

I'll be fukkin god damned if I put myself to torture of sitting thru an hour of Kendrick Lemur or some quasi-elevated shyt like that. fukk outta here. Heard all of that already. Ain't nothing new on the table.

At least Ye goes wide in production, and he raps better than 80% of fukks out. So yes he does have a belt in two classes. He a bit crazy. He playing the game, doing promo stunts every now and then. Can't blame him - he explained himself and he's the only hip-hop dude in that big of a position to speak openly about his plans and intentions. He said it, openly, he needs product to keep himself relevant.

Daps to Ye for keepin it 360.

 

[904]

Its all opinions and your taste in music and your age etc

Kanye in the classical sense of an MC is below average.. He has a weak voice, his flow and delivery is off at times, a lot of wack ass lines, bad breath control, etc...

But he is a good song writer.. But its been said that he has ghost writers for years so he loses all respect on that front

He more of an orchestrator like Dre.. He isn't punching out beats on the beat machine anymore..

I do respect that he attempts to push the culture forward with his music but at the same time most of this recent shyt is wack to me

He wouldn't be in my top 50 mcs

 

[No1]

Don't even bother to explain it to these rinse-repeat fakkits.

Let them have their cookie cutter radio-friendly my girlfriend cosigns r&b thugs (Canuck Ashkenazi), or coke rappers, or battle rappers, or "Im old but still rich my watch is X and my pants are Y I'm 50 years old but rap like 20 cos 50 is the new 40" (Fakkit from Marcy)

Let em have the cookie cutter show.


Kanye the only dude in mainstream whitey/jew music industry with genuine drive, passion and audacity / creativity.

I think you can rap about whatever you want as long as you're dope. It's actually harder to be dope while trying to have "substance."

 

[The Ruler 09]

Funny thing is, a lot of people I see on Drake d*ck are the same people on Kayne d*ck. This can only mean one thing, it's youngin's that do this.

I'd be in utter disbelief if someone over the age of 30 put Kayne in their top 5. Only way that is possible is if they didn't listen to hip hop growing up.

So to answer the question directly, he has been the most popular artist during them coming of age and synonymous with their time getting into and listening to hip hop.

Yeah, some young people on some dumb shyt, and they suck dikk. It ain't about music for them, it's about sucking dikk. Well I don't do that so I'm judging music.

And like 1 dude said, if you love Hip Hop you go back and peep what you can. I don't give a fukk who was in my "era" that's irrelevant to me, I'm judging music alone.

My top 5 consists of...

2 Pac, KRS-One, K-Rino & Nas & possibly Jay, Pun, Rakim or Kane.

KRS, K-Rino,, Kane and Ra released music before I was even born. That's irrelevant to me, fukk I gonna look like putting some new reggae artist over Bob cause Bob wasn't in my "era" lol, some clowns are really nonsensical and devoid of intelligence, knowledge or even love for Hip Hop, or even music.

And Pac I had to even go back to his most of his work, same with Nas, the first Nas album I actively remember hearing at the time was probably Stillmatic, Jay Blueprint, Pun I didn't know. So I grew up with Kanye's music too, just like some these suckas, but that does NOT mean he's ranked as a GOAT based off that weird bias. His music doesn't make him a GOAT and he's not even in contention.