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That would be a good idea, but they might have a clause in the contract where they can still get paid a "finder's fee" for making you famous, like they do with those American Idol winners
Why do rappers still sign to labels in the 2012
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That would be a good idea, but they might have a clause in the contract where they can still get paid a "finder's fee" for making you famous, like they do with those American Idol winners
TrapHouse Rock
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they sign for the reason kendrick's name is blowing up on the internet today
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Being an ex celebrity is not the wave bro. A lot of ex-famous rappers end up back on some 9 to 5 shyt to survive like Cappadonna. If you do it big enough to where you can RETIRE then its worth it. But look at this dude Bobby V. How is he surviving, where are his checks coming from?
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Don't you think the best thing you can do on this subject is plead ignorance?
You would think the rappers have more information on this subject than you do.
Why would a guy like joe budden who was "successful" in the underground sign to a label as soon as they come knocking?
Why would a guy like 2 chains that has an incredible buzz as an unsigned artist sign to a major label.
And there are many more examples.
Don't you think the best thing you can do on this subject is plead ignorance?
You would think the rappers have more information on this subject than you do.
Why would a guy like joe budden who was "successful" in the underground sign to a label as soon as they come knocking?
Why would a guy like 2 chains that has an incredible buzz as an unsigned artist sign to a major label.
And there are many more examples.
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tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
The punk rock ethos tends to hate artists who sign to majors and blow up. I guess hip-hop fans tend to share that same mentality.
Props don't pay bills. That is why major labels still serve a purpose. People don't buy records, but the ones that do, oh they're eatin'.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
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You're looking at it from the perspective of someone who wants to rap to have a career. The indie route can give you that. 95% of rappers rap to blow up while having a career.
It's like asking why do people wanna be famous even though we've seen and heard countless stories of how fame ruins people's lives. The select few that make it live the dream everyone wants. It's chasing the dream. Being indie in a way sacrifices the dream to an extent in exchange for some stability.
You're looking at it from the perspective of someone who wants to rap to have a career. The indie route can give you that. 95% of rappers rap to blow up while having a career.
It's like asking why do people wanna be famous even though we've seen and heard countless stories of how fame ruins people's lives. The select few that make it live the dream everyone wants. It's chasing the dream. Being indie in a way sacrifices the dream to an extent in exchange for some stability.
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MegaTronBomb!
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an ex celebrity= you actually were famous at one point in time.
that's far better than being the dude who nobody ever really knew.
Bobby V got 5 albums.. most folks don't ever record 5 albums
um getting signed can definately create a buzz, if they push your record
I dont know where you the idea that they dont creat buzz
but your right about staying independent. more freedom. people dont buy records anymore. so you better off just doin your own thing...it will take more ground work but why get a label when you just gonna sell 100k on average, and have them take most of that.
just get your grind up. and do it independent. even if you sell 20,000 records at $8.00 a pop, you still may end up wit more in your pocket then selling 100,000 on a label
plus you dont want them dippin in your show money. 360 deals are fukked up
I dont know where you the idea that they dont creat buzz
but your right about staying independent. more freedom. people dont buy records anymore. so you better off just doin your own thing...it will take more ground work but why get a label when you just gonna sell 100k on average, and have them take most of that.
just get your grind up. and do it independent. even if you sell 20,000 records at $8.00 a pop, you still may end up wit more in your pocket then selling 100,000 on a label
plus you dont want them dippin in your show money. 360 deals are fukked up
This is what I'm saying... its a dead dream, as far as being a CAREER. There might be 1000 rappers in the game, indie and signed, with positive cash flow. Of them, maybe 100 make enough to live like a rapper. And then the ones who are in the game at the moment who made/are on the way to make enough to retire on? You can prob count that w/your hands and toes.
I'm not even saying its a dream or hobby you shouldn't pursue... but the way the game is, you need a plan B
I guess that comes down to the question of how much you value fame. tremont said props don't pay the bills. He's right. But neither does fame... case in point, Bobby V. Theres a long list of artists who had a hit and went back to regular life, only now w/the burden of everyone knowing they fell off and either didn't cake off like they presented themselves to, or even worse had it and blew it all
Labels can only do so much... look at all the hot nikkas only selling 100K... look at all the dudes who are signed w/zero buzz... label or not your success really comes down largely to your music and how much people want to hear it.um getting signed can definately create a buzz, if they push your record
I dont know where you the idea that they dont creat buzz
but your right about staying independent. more freedom. people dont buy records anymore. so you better off just doin your own thing...it will take more ground work but why get a label when you just gonna sell 100k on average, and have them take most of that.
just get your grind up. and do it independent. even if you sell 20,000 records at $8.00 a pop, you still may end up wit more in your pocket then selling 100,000 on a label
plus you dont want them dippin in your show money. 360 deals are fukked up
I would even argue the independent grind is kind of dead... people dont buy retail... theyre prob not buying indy shyt either. Best bet, get your SHOW buzz going, and cake off appearances/performances. People pay for shows, cause thats an experience you can't replicate or download... and is a way to really connect.
Another big problem is just the sheer volume of artists/music out but I don't want to jump around more than I already have. Its just a totally different game thats not in the artists favor, financially.
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Lamar being promoted to hell and back by interscope
But his disc is flames
He is an instance where a label helps... because the product is solid, unique, marketable etc. I dont know shyt about dude's appearances or sponsorships but I heard the disc and I'm gonna buy it. At the end of the day, thats really the only way youre gonna sell a lot of records
But his disc is flames
He is an instance where a label helps... because the product is solid, unique, marketable etc. I dont know shyt about dude's appearances or sponsorships but I heard the disc and I'm gonna buy it. At the end of the day, thats really the only way youre gonna sell a lot of records
I agree, if you got the proper music and major label promotion it's the perfect mix
Tuc2DaBoot
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um getting signed can definately create a buzz, if they push your record
I dont know where you the idea that they dont creat buzz
but your right about staying independent. more freedom. people dont buy records anymore. so you better off just doin your own thing...it will take more ground work but why get a label when you just gonna sell 100k on average, and have them take most of that.
just get your grind up. and do it independent. even if you sell 20,000 records at $8.00 a pop, you still may end up wit more in your pocket then selling 100,000 on a label
plus you dont want them dippin in your show money. 360 deals are fukked up
The thing is... how many rappers are going to handle all that on their own? Even artists that are indie have a group of people that invest into them like majors...
Cats who sell albums for $8/unit but someone put some money behind that artist to get them to a 20k level. Whether it be managers, PR firms, producers (in-house or not), engineers, road assistants, etc.
The truth is most rappers are too busy, lazy, or misinformed to do anything solely on their own, indie or major. Someone is dipping in their pockets, period. Just some less than others.