Why do so many of you think that hip hop is among the largest/larger problems in the black community

[PhonZhi]

"media propaganda" is currently one of the most effective weapons being used against the black race to demonize our image to the world. This is a tactic that has been utilized well before rap existed:



"systemic oppression" is just that, a "system". A collection of MANY different tactics of oppression (redlining, unfair hiring practices, loan discrimination, guns/drugs intentionally put in black neighborhoods,private prisons,etc) . Think of systemic oppression like a pie chart:

Hiphop falls in the category of "media propaganda". Lets say the green portion of the above pie chart represents "media propaganda". THink about who controls hiphop. Think about who signs these rappers checks. Think about who signs these rappers to the labels. Think about who controls the major media conglomerates. There is a specific reason why most easily-accessible, mainstream rap promotes and glorifies criminal/destructive behaviour. It is NOT a coincidence. Its by design.

What most of you fail to realize is to control a mass group of people physically, you must first gain control of the mind. This brainwashing of the black mind also has been happening since the slave days:

Modern-day white supremacist-controlled hiphop is currently being used to brainwash blacks into the mentality that THEY want us to be in. White supremacy thrives on blacks being materialistic, ignorant and fearing/distrusting each other. Most mainstream rap promotes this. It teaches us that blacks are each others enemy. It teaches us to be reckless with our money. It teaches us to disrespect the black woman. It teaches us that the gang lifestyle is "cool". It teaches us that the keys to success is the criminal lifestyle instead of education and intelligence.

In 2016, if you dont understand how hiphop has become a detriment for blacks, you're either not black, young or a naive adult who hasn't gained knowledge of self/past history and racial pride. Study the past and everything ive posted will make sense to you.

 

[PhonZhi]

People seem to think Hip hop influences the violence....which at times can be true.

Usually though, hiphop just tells the story of what's already happening, a peak into their world on the streets. Rappers are just telling the story.

Thats actually the LEAST affect that this music has. The most damning affects of modern-day hiphop is how it makes us feel about each other. Its playing a huge role in our own self-hate. Its a big reason why some blacks distrust and fear other blacks. The stereotypes that this music projects to the world is doing a major disservice to blacks globally.

 

[North]

Blame Jeff for all the world's problems breh

 

[PhonZhi]

no other group of people would celebrate images like this about themselves

 

[agpxknt]

It dont matter about how large the problem is
Some people wont admit that it is a problem tho.

 

[BrothaZay]

@BrothaZay

These nikkas listen to Elvis

 

[Doobie Doo]

But ya'll are acting like there aren't conscience rappers out here like Killah Mike, David Banner. Obviously both rappers have the respect of the black community but they don't get the media push.

So rather than blame the people who control the media they'd rather blame the rappers

 

[feelosofer]

I don't think hip-hop as an artform is a the largest problem in the Black community but it is a symptom of the lack of control we have over media outlets and our self image.

 

[Skrilla]

Hip Hop is poison. Clearly you dudes don't have children.

I clearly said:

I'm NOT saying rap doesn't influence anyone at all, but a lot of problems we face have to do with economics, not some music

Yes negative rap songs are an issue but they are so far down on the list of our issues that it doesn't even need to be discussed so much. Like, if you really want to improve something, let's stop giving so much our disposable income to these ppl who don't look like us, like us or want to hire us, try to start more businesses of our own and support them, employ our own people and extract wealth from other groups like they're doing to us. Let's work on this and then we talk about not listening to Lil Uzi (or whoever) anymore

A dollar circulates in Asian communties for approx a month. A dollar circulates in the black community for approx six hours

I never said "hip hop is a positive musical genre". Never.

Even my thread title says "Why do so many of you think hip hop is among the largest/larger problems in the BC" meaning yes it's somewhat of a problem but it's definitely not the TOP problem or among the top ones we face.

If we all decide today that we're no longer gonna listen to rap, what are yall saying will suddenly be different? Lol. For real. What? Will unemployment/underemployment rates suddenly lower? Will we suddenly have more black businesses to employ our own ppl? Will we own more property? Etc

You have kids right? If you all listen to jazz, gospel, etc or whichever musical genre you choose, will this suddenly help black ppl economically? How? It won't. All i'm saying is it's not a solution like cats claim it is. Non black men would still own the overwhelming majority of businesses in our communities, we'd still be relying on white ppl for employment, etc

And I'm not some "hip hop advocate", I listen to different types of music, mostly R&B, pop, and some rap. I'm not trying to "defend" hip hop at all. I admitted that negative rap isn't helpful, but I AM saying that i don't agree with the opinion that "boycotting" rap songs is some sort of solution to the economic/wealth disparity and other problems black ppl face as a group.

I also didn't say ppl SHOULD listen to it, i just said whether we "boycott" it or not, it won't make a difference. It would take actual actions that MATTER to make a difference.

What needs to change is our spending habits, more entrepreneurial mindsets, more group economics, etc because just turning the radio station/channel isn't gonna do shyt.

 

[Skrilla]

Exactly. When dudes start talking about "boycotting" rap, it destroyed the black community, etc i don't even reply anymore, the solution to our issues does not involve music in any way. What will help is supporting black businesses that already exist, stop supporting non black ones so much especially the ones who suck all the money out of our communties and don't even hire blacks, starting more black businesses that way we have more we CAN support, etc simply not listening to Tyga anymore is not a viable "solution"

And yes a lot of the dudes saying this will still go take their money to Jin Lee at the end of the day so it doesn't make any difference. Like ok, you don't listen to POWER 105 anymore, but you still give your money to non black men, and don't start black businesses. You "boycotted" rap but you can't fathom boycotting the local non black shops/delis/etc in your area yeah sure, listening to rap is our problem, not group economics.

If i decide to only listen to country, jazz, pop, etc but at the end of the day me and a bunch of other nikkas still give our dough to non blacks, does it even matter what i'm listening to?

Exactly! nikkas don't hear you though

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Cacs said rap was bad and the negros went along with it.

 

[mrken12]

@PhonZhi

Don't bring that idiot in here. Tell him to go listen to some more Eminem.

 

[LEEeveryday]

Wanna control all the fish? Manipulate the sea...

Wanna control a human? Manipulate how they think.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

You "boycotted" rap but you can't fathom boycotting the local non black shops/delis/etc in your area yeah sure, listening to rap is our problem, not group economics.

 

[FSP]

Ha, I don't think hip hop destroys the black community, more like people who destroy the black community seem to want to make hip hop for some reason