Why do SOME people hold such a high view of going to college

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If you don't go, you may bump your head on the 'glass ceiling' like I have.

I can't obtain a higher position without a degree so, I'm 2 years in on a Bachelor's that I'm paying for out of my own pocket......:sadbron:

I could settle for where I am now but I have higher aspirations.​
 
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So the average person is going to make over 50 K a year without college?

Probably not. But the average person that goes to college is going to be under employed and drowning it debt.. Since we talking averages.

And if you put all the effort, energy, time and money it takes to get a degree. Into a career/investment/business I'm 100% sure 50k won't be a problem.
 

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Probably not. But the average person that goes to college is going to be under employed and drowning it debt.. Since we talking averages.

And if you put all the effort, energy, time and money it takes to get a degree. Into a career/investment/business I'm 100% sure 50k won't be a problem.
4 years grinding at college vs years of working to earn the capital to start a business that has a good chance of failing. You were talking about banking jobs n shyt but guess what, if you ever want to be a supervisor or higher u need a degree. Im currently living the life of a nikka without a degree. Yall making not having a degree sound more glorious than it is in order to validate your decision not to go. ive had less opportunities rather than more. A degree opens doors.
 
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If you don't go, you may bump your head on the 'glass ceiling' like I have.

I can't obtain a higher position without a degree so, I'm 2 years in on a Bachelor's that I'm paying for out of my own pocket......:sadbron:

I could settle for where I am now but I have higher aspirations.​
Or if you do go you may be fuxked with 100s of dollars in monthly debt that you can't handle with your mediocre job that your education afforded you. I the banking industry I deal with people daily who can't buy a house because them Saly Mae payments. M

This college shyt is the greatest hustle on earth. The colleges cake off the dream sold and the give is making as much as apple does in interest payments. But yeah, everybody go to college college :mjlol:
 

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As for yall using the debt argument, no one is forcing you to go to Harvard. The university closest to me has a tuition of like $5000, unless you want to be a doctor or lawyer it doesnt matter what university you go to.
 
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4 years grinding at college vs years of working to earn the capital to start a business that has a good chance of failing. You were talking about banking jobs n shyt but guess what, if you ever want to be a supervisor or higher u need a degree. Im currently living the life of a nikka without a degree. Yall making not having a degree sound more glorious than it is in order to validate your decision not to go. ive had less opportunities rather than more. A degree opens doors.
:russ: Why would I want to do that, almost all of the relationship bankers in my dist make more than the managers. I swear you nikkas and these titles. You refuse to admit that college can also be a setback that people don't recover from.. Don't be bamboozled breh
 

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:russ: Why would I want to do that, almost all of the relationship bankers in my dist make more than the managers. I swear you nikkas and these titles. You refuse to admit that college can also be a setback that people don't recover from.. Don't be bamboozled breh
Why would you want to do that? nikka if you choose not to get a degree I would hope you would have aspirations of moving up the food chain wherever you work. You basically just stated you were content with a dead end job. Both my parents not having a degree was a setback for me aka I grew up poor. Me not having a degree right now has been a setback for me in my early 20's thus far. Success in life takes a plan whether you get a degree or not.Dont take on debt for an art degree just like you shouldnt invest your life savings in stocks.
 

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Or if you do go you may be fuxked with 100s of dollars in monthly debt that you can't handle with your mediocre job that your education afforded you.

How would someone accrue any debt if they're paying for their degree out of their own pocket?

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Why would you want to do that? nikka if you choose not to get a degree I would hope you would have aspirations of moving up the food chain wherever you work. You basically just stated you were content with a dead end job. Both my parents not having a degree was a setback for me aka I grew up poor. Me not having a degree right now has been a setback for me in my early 20's thus far. Success in life takes a plan whether you get a degree or not.Dont take on debt for an art degree just like you shouldnt invest your life savings in stocks.
The food chain to you = titles. Food chain to me = compensation .

Moving up to me is expanding my portfolio and residual income..I'm moving up every Single day.
 

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Of course this is about averages. There are always exceptions. But half of the people on your initial "successful" list (Zuckerberg, Gates,and I should add Steve Jobs & Michael Dell) dropped out of an Ivy League college, which cannot be discounted because of the valuable networks they encountered at those schools which helped launch and support their ventures. On average, even college drop-outs make more than those who never went. And then there's this:

For young adults ages 25–34 who worked full time, year round, higher educational attainment was associated with higher median earnings; this pattern was consistent for 1995, 2000, 2002, and 2005 through 2012. For example, in 2012 the median of earnings for young adults with a bachelor's degree was $46,900, while the median was $22,900 for those without a high school credential and $30,000 for those with a high school credential. In other words, young adults with a bachelor's degree earned more than twice as much as those without a high school credential (105 percent more) and 57 percent more than young adult high school completers. Additionally, in 2012 the median of earnings for young adults with a master's degree or higher was $59,600, some 27 percent more than the median for young adults with a bachelor's degree. For the above years between 1995 and 2012, this pattern of higher earnings associated with higher levels of educational attainment also held across sex and racial/ ethnic subgroups (White, Black, Hispanic, and Asian).
- Source: http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=77

I'm sure you can point out exceptions, but the problem is...they're still exceptions, and the cost of NOT going to college for the average person, especially if they're a person of color, is too much, and its getting worse.

....Millennial college graduates ages 25 to 321 who are working full time earn more annually—about $17,500 more—than employed young adults holding only a high school diploma. The pay gap was significantly smaller in previous generations.2 College-educated Millennials also are more likely to be employed full time than their less-educated counterparts (89% vs. 82%) and significantly less likely to be unemployed (3.8% vs. 12.2%).
-Source: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/02/11/the-rising-cost-of-not-going-to-college/

But its not all about money either. Learning to listen to different opinions, and entertain arguments that you morally and ethically oppose is valuable too. I'm not saying it can't be done without college, because I know it can be, but it doesn't hurt.
 
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