Why do we associate fatherlessness with crime and dysfunction?

[Prynce]

How old are you? Because I went through the same thing with disliking authority. But I grew out of it.

And don't take the life skills he gave you for granted, because all the most successful men I know had authoritarian father's, some of them don't really fukk with their dads to this day, but they never deny that their dad gave them the base to reach success.

25 and ye I don't because that shyt really did prepare me

 

[Wild self]

The point is to blame single mothers, the ones left to raise the children the Black fathers abandoned.

Bro, just drop the act that you seem to care about the women, cause you really dont. To be frank, you really think that women cannot think for themselves and you treat them like (spoiled) children. You arent getting any more p*ssy or even their true respect.

Having a father is VITALLY important to be raised in a black household. I mean seeing them everyday and talking to them face to face, not just texting them once per week. Too many black children today dont even know their father's favorite things, their birthday, their hobbies, their concerns.....none of that. Its like the image of being a family man is "lame" in the black community, even for older black men.

 

[Wild self]

Since we're ignoring stats and posting anecdotes, I'll share.

Any man on here knows that after puberty, around 13 or 14, your moms beatings don't hurt anymore. You're probably stronger than her already. You might cry some crocodile tears just to make her stop, but you're laughing when she leaves the room.

That's also the age where u start to kind of "tune out" her incessant complaining and bytching. Even when she's saying some good stuff it's still going in one ear and out the other because she's always complaining about something.

Now this is the time where a boy should go live with his father, or in a 2 parent house the dad takes over the discipline. This is the age where u start "smelling yourself" as the old people say and try to square up on pops. For most men, these are the last, and worst, ass whippings they will ever get and your dad has commanded his respect so you're more inclined to listen to him and take advice.

However, due to a variety of reasons, this doesn't always happen. So if you're already living in poverty or trending towards doing stupid stuff and you reach that age where mom can't handle you anymore and there's no man around, or if there is one around, too weak to put the fear of god in a child's heart, he's on his way to that prison industrial machine...

Well stated. When I saw My pops effortlessly bend metal from a broke lawn mower and ripped a medium sized tree from the root with his own 2 hands, I was on how he could permanently damage me on a one-on-one fight. For him to do that where most adult males couldn't do, that power is nightmarish to even comprehend.

If You not living with your pops in your adolescent years, you missed out on some important examples of manhood and accountability

 

[Matt504]

Bro, just drop the act that you seem to care about the women, cause you really dont. To be frank, you really think that women cannot think for themselves and you treat them like (spoiled) children. You arent getting any more p*ssy or even their true respect.

Having a father is VITALLY important to be raised in a black household. I mean seeing them everyday and talking to them face to face, not just texting them once per week. Too many black children today dont even know their father's favorite things, their birthday, their hobbies, their concerns.....none of that. Its like the image of being a family man is "lame" in the black community, even for older black men.

nikkas like you are so preoccupied with p*ssy that you think it motivates everyone else's behavior. this aint that. It's very probable that I could produce thousands of posts here on the Coli of men use the "fatherless" insult to suggest Black men's poor behavior is related to women raising them. If Black men believe that having a father is vitally important to the Black household then we wouldn't have a culture of nikkas angling to fukk as many women as possible without bothering to get to know them as every instance of sex is a gamble at having a baby with a woman you only want sex with.

 

[Wild self]

nikkas like you are so preoccupied with p*ssy that you think it motivates everyone else's behavior. this aint that. It's very probable that I could produce thousands of posts here on the Coli of men use the "fatherless" insult to suggest Black men's poor behavior is related to women raising them. If Black men believe that having a father is vitally important to the Black household then we wouldn't have a culture of nikkas angling to fukk as many women as possible without bothering to get to know them as every instance of sex is a gamble at having a baby with a woman you only want sex with.

Me, preoccupied with p*ssy?

All I see people defending the status quo of black kids not LIVING with their father's. Not just "talking" to them over the phone in another residence....but LIVING with them and being properly raised.

 

[brandy]

Not sure if OP is trolling or what, but the white man said it is a problem.

It isn't fatherlessness. It is poverty. Even if folks come from a two-parent household, they still have a chance of being in prison or etc because America criminalizes the poor.

 

[HellRell804]

Not sure if OP is trolling or what, but the white man said it is a problem.

It isn't fatherlessness. It is poverty. Even if folks come from a two-parent household, they still have a chance of being in prison or etc because America criminalizes the poor.

Being born to a single mother is one of the most reliable indicators of generational poverty in the world.

The above logic is one of the reasons why.

You feel like you're "rebelling" against white people by living in dysfunction.

This is why things like reading, doing well in school, having interests and hobbies outside of sports and music, and other things were considered "white people stuff" and shunned and shamed in black communities.

 

[brandy]

Being born to a single mother is one of the most reliable indicators of generational poverty in the world.

The above logic is one of the reasons why.

You feel like you're "rebelling" against white people by living in dysfunction.

This is why things like reading, doing well in school, having interests and hobbies outside of sports and music, and other things were considered "white people stuff" and shunned and shamed in black communities.

I don’t live in dysfunction though. I think folks should called racism when it is a prevalent.

Having a single mother means you only have one income providing for the household. That one income is supposed to do the job of two.

In the context of America, single motherhood has been criminalize and penalized because it was a justification of why the state shouldn't provide welfare. The same numbers are available for poor whites but we dont hear the dangers of two parent households despite poor whites having two working individuals and still not getting above the poverty line or mass shootings or participation in white supremacist groups or drugs.

Also Black families have the highest level of father participation. Yet single motherhood/ “absent fathers” is the indicator of crime? That doesn't make sense.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Where are the stats that say that 70% of Black kids are fatherless?

People keep confusing unwed mothers with fatherless children. Children of divorced parents have an unwed mother, but that does not mean that the children are fatherless. Children who parents are married can have a father that is an abusive drunk who squanders money and doesn't take care of his kids. Those children are in a wedded house, but they are fatherless.

People keep citing stats, but I am not sure that people fully understand what the stats actually mean.

In fact there was a recent and brilliant study that proved that Black fathers were more in their children's lives than other fathers. Heck I see many young Black fathers raising their kid however they are just not married. Fact is the ADOS community never had this cookie cutter nuclear family.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

The point is to blame single mothers, the ones left to raise the children the Black fathers abandoned.

The Coli has a very simplified view on single mothers.

 

[Samori Toure]

Being born to a single mother is one of the most reliable indicators of generational poverty in the world.

The above logic is one of the reasons why.

You feel like you're "rebelling" against white people by living in dysfunction.

This is why things like reading, doing well in school, having interests and hobbies outside of sports and music, and other things were considered "white people stuff" and shunned and shamed in black communities.

Once again people are conflating being born to an unwed mother with being raised by an unwed mother. It is not being born to an unwed mother that is the problem. The issue is being raised by a single parent. That is the indicator.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b0121a-2942-11e8-b79d-f3d931db7f68_story.html
Poverty, Family Structure, and Child Well-Being: Indicators From the SIPP

There are over 113 million people in America that live in step relationships. So a child could be born to an unwed mother, but not grow up fatherless nor live in poverty; because it is not uncommon for a single mother to get married at some point. Marriages with step parents and step children is very common in the USA and among African Americans.
Marriage, Family, & Stepfamily Statistics | Smart Stepfamilies

 

[Samori Toure]

Bro, just drop the act that you seem to care about the women, cause you really dont. To be frank, you really think that women cannot think for themselves and you treat them like (spoiled) children. You arent getting any more p*ssy or even their true respect.

Having a father is VITALLY important to be raised in a black household. I mean seeing them everyday and talking to them face to face, not just texting them once per week. Too many black children today dont even know their father's favorite things, their birthday, their hobbies, their concerns.....none of that. Its like the image of being a family man is "lame" in the black community, even for older black men.

It is not seen as being lame in the Black community. Not even for older Black men. The notion of being a family man is actually very normal in the Black community to the point that it is pretty common to see older black people (40 and over) getting married. In many cases they are getting married for the first time.

The thing that is new among Black people is the whole notion of being single. That crap didn't start until the 1970s and it carried forward in this absurdly ridiculous manner through this very day.

 

[HellRell804]

Once again people are conflating being born to an unwed mother with being raised by an unwed mother. It is not being born to an unwed mother that is the problem. The issue is being raised by a single parent. That is the indicator.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b0121a-2942-11e8-b79d-f3d931db7f68_story.html
Poverty, Family Structure, and Child Well-Being: Indicators From the SIPP

There are over 113 million people in America that live in step relationships. So a child could be born to an unwed mother, but not grow up fatherless nor live in poverty; because it is not uncommon for a single mother to get married at some point. Marriages with step parents and step children is very common in the USA and among African Americans.
Marriage, Family, & Stepfamily Statistics | Smart Stepfamilies

Breh I've broken it down before how the cost parents running 2 separate households instead of combining into 1 over the course of 18 years pretty much equals the wealth gap between white and black people.

As far as step fathers, well you're a father and youre in the house with that family, so that doesn't fit with single mothers, you're an actual father, just to someone else's kids

 

[HellRell804]

I don’t live in dysfunction though. I think folks should called racism when it is a prevalent.

Having a single mother means you only have one income providing for the household. That one income is supposed to do the job of two.

In the context of America, single motherhood has been criminalize and penalized because it was a justification of why the state shouldn't provide welfare. The same numbers are available for poor whites but we dont hear the dangers of two parent households despite poor whites having two working individuals and still not getting above the poverty line or mass shootings or participation in white supremacist groups or drugs.

Also Black families have the highest level of father participation. Yet single motherhood/ “absent fathers” is the indicator of crime? That doesn't make sense.

Lol @ single motherhood being penalized in America.

With the men sone of these women voluntarily choose to procreate with, a lot of single mothers and their children would starve to death without public assistance.

If I'm being honest, reading that made me not take you seriously and I didn't read the rest of the post to break it down.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

I don’t live in dysfunction though. I think folks should called racism when it is a prevalent.

Having a single mother means you only have one income providing for the household. That one income is supposed to do the job of two.

In the context of America, single motherhood has been criminalize and penalized because it was a justification of why the state shouldn't provide welfare. The same numbers are available for poor whites but we dont hear the dangers of two parent households despite poor whites having two working individuals and still not getting above the poverty line or mass shootings or participation in white supremacist groups or drugs.

Also Black families have the highest level of father participation. Yet single motherhood/ “absent fathers” is the indicator of crime? That doesn't make sense.

Get the foh with single motherhood being criminalized in America. There's is all sorts of assistance, housing, hell there are exclusive single mother scholarships at the college I'm at. Yet dudes who don't pay child Support go to jail. Just stop it.

Next the majority of school shooters since Virginia tech came from broken homes (lacked a father figure). I don't have the numbers but this probably correlates to mass shooters at large.

Same thing with the opoid crisis. A direct correlation is seen between a lack of fathers and drug use.

Single motherhood is a direct indicator of negative outcomes in life regardless of race. Not 100 percent but every rule has exceptions.

You think shyt is fukked up now? Give it twenty years until the white community has a 77 Percent out of wedlock rate like us. shyts gonna look like world war z.