Why do we toss around the word Superstar in NBA?

[Consumed]

Real talk, what else does KD do well?

Well for one you can't just group scoring into one giant category, there are different dimensions to it. Durant is special because he's supremely well rounded with no weaknesses as a 1on1 scorer, man does it all at a high level even in the high post where people vastly overstate how much he needs to improve. He's also a good passer especially in the P&R and a good defensive player that uses his freakish wingspan & quick feet well to contest shots. His block rate is very impressive for his position and thats largely because of the wingspan and height. Some of the Thunder most successful lineups feature Durant at PF where he rebounds well and has proven to be a solid post defender.

Honestly for you to say the only difference between KD and Melo is a finals appearance says alot about how much you actually pay attention to his game. That is a horrid observation. And Melo isn't one dimensional either, fantastic offensive rebounder that has had a lot of success playing the four with the Knicks which he wouldn't be able to do if he wasn't versatile.

 

[Loose]

Good topic but lost me at KD

Maybe because your stupid and don't realize kd is a great defender at his position

 

[Jaylen Tatum]

 

[Consumed]

Dwight was a superstar because he's was a dominant defender, a dominant rebounder and served as the offensive anchor for several top ten offenses in this league that ran through him in the post where he was effective. Its a total myth to suggest Dwight had no post game, only people that started watching his game when he arrived in LA would say that shyt. This man is so fukking underrated by casual fans I swear, Dwight was a GREAT player in his prime.

 

[bl2k8]

Nobody considers Dwight a superstar anymore though and the fact that we talking about when Dwight was in his "prime" and he's 29 says alot

 

[fifth column]

Aiight fam real question. Why was/is Dwight Howard a superstar? Why is KD a superstar? I have a problem or disconnect with these two personally. D12...man we talking about a guy who has been the most dominant C of his time by default because there were no other legit C's during his reign. This man never developed. He had some good years in Orlando but being the most athletic C we've since Wilt in a league absent of viable big men, Dwight should've been avg at least 30 ppg, 15 rpg AND upwards of 6 dimes a game because he was surrounded by SHOOTERS to kick out to out of double teams in Orlando. Where is his post game? How do you work with Hakeem and not develop anything? He has no heart, he's soft and he's not a winner. Why is he a superstar? Why was he ever considered as such?

My prob with KD is that he only does one thing well and that is score. He's doesn't commit on defense. Not the lock down defender a 6'11 long wing should be. Doesn't do anything particularly well but score. The only difference between he and Melo (someone who we rip apart) is a finals appearance. I know Melo is more selfish but can you blame him? Who else is he going to look to for scoring? Give Melo the weapons like KD has and he'd be just as successful like he was in Denver.

My point is that a superstar should still affect the game in more than one way if he's not scoring. You take KD's shot away, he's absent. D12 is just a dominant defender/rebounder and thats good enough to be an allstar but never a superstar. Blake Griffin came in exactly like D12, a raw, athletic big man who could dunk. 6 years later, Blake is catching bodies with his post game AND a nice mid range J. Since Dwight came in, what has he improved on? Can we leave the superstar title to the players that deserve it. KD can get there, but he's not there yet. Just a glorified scorer on a great team.

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[Standing on business]

Maybe because your stupid and don't realize kd is a great defender at his position

"You're"

And why the hell are you quoting me
I said he lost me at KD because we all know KD is a bonafide superstar

 

[Archangel]

Well for one you can't just group scoring into one giant category, there are different dimensions to it. Durant is special because he's supremely well rounded with no weaknesses as a 1on1 scorer, man does it all at a high level even in the high post where people vastly overstate how much he needs to improve. He's also a good passer especially in the P&R and a good defensive player that uses his freakish wingspan & quick feet well to contest shots. His block rate is very impressive for his position and thats largely because of the wingspan and height. Some of the Thunder most successful lineups feature Durant at PF where he rebounds well and has proven to be a solid post defender.

Honestly for you to say the only difference between KD and Melo is a finals appearance says alot about how much you actually pay attention to his game. That is a horrid observation. And Melo isn't one dimensional either, fantastic offensive rebounder that has had a lot of success playing the four with the Knicks which he wouldn't be able to do if he wasn't versatile.

I never called KD a bad defender, I just don't think he commits to it as often as he should. I agree that KD is a good defender. But to be a superstar (in my book at least) is for KD to be lockdown material. He's 6'11 with a freakish wingspan. If he took defense as serious as he did offense, he'd be in the running for DPOY ever year. But he's never even made an all defensive 1st or 2nd team. I'm not trippin on KD and knew I'd be in the minority and get negged lol but its all good. I gave my opinion and wanted to hear some others. And for the record, I do watch KD a lot. Great player, just wouldn't call him a superstar yet, MVP or not.

 

[Loose]

"You're"

And why the hell are you quoting me
I said he lost me at KD because we all know KD is a bonafide superstar

I'm on my phone wrong person

 

[Consumed]

I never called KD a bad defender, I just don't think he commits to it as often as he should. I agree that KD is a good defender. But to be a superstar (in my book at least) is for KD to be lockdown material. He's 6'11 with a freakish wingspan. If he took defense as serious as he did offense, he'd be in the running for DPOY ever year. But he's never even made an all defensive 1st or 2nd team. I'm not trippin on KD and knew I'd be in the minority and get negged lol but its all good. I gave my opinion and wanted to hear some others. And for the record, I do watch KD a lot. Great player, just wouldn't call him a superstar yet, MVP or not.

Durant actually did have an argument for all defense last year, in the regular season he was a better & more engaged defender than LeBron James. Can't control how voters perceive defense in this league

If a superstar for you has to play lockdown defense then I'd like to see your all time list, because then Charles Barkley/Dirk Nowitzki/Magic Johnson/Oscar Robertson/Rick Barry are all greatly devalued. Any of those players including Durant playing lockdown defense would put them in the discussion for greatest player in NBA history. Superstars are not perfect. They just have the ability to have otherworldly impact on a basketball game. The fact that you can build a contender around Durant with role players means he is a superstar in my book, because he has that type of influence on a team. Same with Dwight Howard

Also who do you consider to be superstars in the game today? Just LeBron?

 

[Archangel]

Durant actually did have an argument for all defense last year, in the regular season he was a better & more engaged defender than LeBron James. Can't control how voters perceive defense in this league

If a superstar for you has to play lockdown defense then I'd like to see your all time list, because then Charles Barkley/Dirk Nowitzki/Magic Johnson/Oscar Robertson/Rick Barry are all greatly devalued. Any of those players including Durant playing lockdown defense would put them in the discussion for greatest player in NBA history. Superstars are not perfect. They just have the ability to have otherworldly impact on a basketball game. The fact that you can build a contender around Durant with role players means he is a superstar in my book, because he has that type of influence on a team. Same with Dwight Howard

Also who do you consider to be superstars in the game today? Just LeBron?

I'm just very strict on my criteria. For me, being a superstar can embody a lot of things on and off the court. My top 10 in order is MJ, Magic, Tim Duncan, Shaq, Bird, Kobe, LBJ, Hakeem, Kareem & Wilt.

Magic impacted the game in more ways than scoring, as did Big O. I said in my book to be a superstar, I expect impact in more than one area. Profound impact. Never considered Dirk a superstar. Just an Allstar. The only true superstar I recognize today man really is LBJ. But next runner up is cats like KD, Russ, AD etc. I think superstar should equate to "you can't remove his impact on a game". Like I said earlier, if you body KD and get in his grill with that Tony Allen, Kawhi D, dude can be very ineffective.

 

[sportscribe]

I'm just very strict on my criteria. For me, being a superstar can embody a lot of things on and off the court. My top 10 in order is MJ, Magic, Tim Duncan, Shaq, Bird, Kobe, LBJ, Hakeem, Kareem & Wilt.

Magic impacted the game in more ways than scoring, as did Big O. I said in my book to be a superstar, I expect impact in more than one area. Profound impact. Never considered Dirk a superstar. Just an Allstar. The only true superstar I recognize today man really is LBJ. But next runner up is cats like KD, Russ, AD etc. I think superstar should equate to "you can't remove his impact on a game". Like I said earlier, if you body KD and get in his grill with that Tony Allen, Kawhi D, dude can be very ineffective.

So the league only has one superstar based on your own arbitrary interpretation of the word?

 

[Archangel]

So the league only has one superstar based on your own arbitrary interpretation of the word?

Basically. The beat of my own drum breh.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

I'm just very strict on my criteria. For me, being a superstar can embody a lot of things on and off the court. My top 10 in order is MJ, Magic, Tim Duncan, Shaq, Bird, Kobe, LBJ, Hakeem, Kareem & Wilt.

Magic impacted the game in more ways than scoring, as did Big O. I said in my book to be a superstar, I expect impact in more than one area. Profound impact. Never considered Dirk a superstar. Just an Allstar. The only true superstar I recognize today man really is LBJ. But next runner up is cats like KD, Russ, AD etc. I think superstar should equate to "you can't remove his impact on a game". Like I said earlier, if you body KD and get in his grill with that Tony Allen, Kawhi D, dude can be very ineffective.

I'm sorry dirk is a super star


Do u consider kg and Duncan superstars?

 

[labelplant]

Write shytty essays about semantics brehs

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