Why Do Ya'll continue to compare these rappers to Jay Z

[McPiff]

kanye is a better rapper. his flow is alot more diverse. Jay has a cool lil swag, he has charisma too dont get me wrong, but Yeezy is just a damn beast wit it. Production wise 10/10 lyrically hes a 7/10





dont tell me what to do breh. leave me alone weirdo.

you're getting upset all over the place but i'm the weirdo??



you're a straight clown b. and lol @ kanye being a better rapper than Jay-Z.

i mean...yeah....i'm not even gonna argue with you're dumb ass.

Have a good day breh

 

[OG Talk]

im sure he does. but lets not act like Kanye just sat there twidldling his thumbs while the others wrote lyrics and then handed them to him. what percentage of his work is written by ghost writers? Jay probably uses them too you know.

I don't know for sure.. But the thing is as an emcee if you allow 1% of your bars to written for you it use to taint your whole catalogue....Now I guess dudes don't care...

You can't just say "Jay probably uses ghost writers too", because you have no proof...It's documented that Kanye has used them...

 

[Gifted one]

Kanye's flow is a lot more diverse? Jay has one of the best flows of all time if you ask me. This thread just took a crazy turn

 

[HoLLaBaCK]

Jay-Z is the benchmark PERIOD, IMO he is the GOAT.

Yet I can understand why some people would feel he fell off
Do I feel he fell off...no, that's just a matter of perspective though. Is his new shyt as good or better than his old shyt...no. Its not trash though!

See people like to compare him to Jordan on the Wizards these days...forgetting that Jordan averaged 21 ppg 4 apg 5.5 rpg over those 2 years which are still good numbers. Compared to his old stats it's not as good put compared to others in the league it's still impressive.

My point is his shyt may not have that same feel as years past but to say he was or is wack is just hate breh.

 

[thoushallhustle]

you're getting upset all over the place but i'm the weirdo??



you're a straight clown b. and lol @ kanye being a better rapper than Jay-Z.

i mean...yeah....i'm not even gonna argue with you're dumb ass.

Have a good day breh

no ones getting upset. you came in here telling me to chill like i give a fukk about your life or you run some shyt so i told you to stfu now youre callin me names? you know wat youre not even contributing anything to this thread so BYE.

I don't know for sure.. But the thing is as an emcee if you allow 1% of your bars to written for you it use to taint your whole catalogue....Now I guess dudes don't care...

You can't just say "Jay probably uses ghost writers too", because you have no proof...It's documented that Kanye has used them...

thats a bit extreme. these dudes have appearences and interviews and shyt to do they dont have all day to sit up writing lyrics. i do not fault an artist for getting some help esp if the final product is beast.

Kanye's flow is a lot more diverse? Jay has one of the best flows of all time if you ask me. This thread just took a crazy turn

They're both good like I said. Ye just has a wee bit more flavor. The too cool for school swag can get a bit stale. Is there any song where Jay is super hype? I can name a bunch from Yeezy

 

[OG Talk]

thats a bit extreme. these dudes have appearences and interviews and shyt to do they dont have all day to sit up writing lyrics. i do not fault an artist for getting some help esp if the final product is beast.

Fair enough...

But this is what seperates emcees from pop stars imo...

 

[thoushallhustle]

Fair enough...

But this is what seperates emcees from pop stars imo...

well i never really said kanye was a great rapper anyway. i gave him a 7/10 generously. most of his hot lines are from college dropout/late registration. diamonds from sierra leone and crack music still give me chills til this day

 

[Gifted one]

no ones getting upset. you came in here telling me to chill like i give a fukk about your life or you run some shyt so i told you to stfu now youre callin me names? you know wat youre not even contributing anything to this thread so BYE.




thats a bit extreme. these dudes have appearences and interviews and shyt to do they dont have all day to sit up writing lyrics. i do not fault an artist for getting some help esp if the final product is beast.



They're both good like I said. Ye just has a wee bit more flavor. The too cool for school swag can get a bit stale. Is there any song where Jay is super hype? I can name a bunch from Yeezy

If its how you feel, then I can't knock it, much respect, but you do know a lot of Jay stans are going to come at your neck now, just letting you know

 

[thoushallhustle]

If its how you feel, then I can't knock it, much respect, but you do know a lot of Jay stans are going to come at your neck now, just letting you know

yeah. i aint scared of you mufukkas

 

[CrimsonTider]

kindly direct me to these lyrical masterpieces on wtt?? maybe i did miss them cause that shyt had me

I respect Jay for being able to remain relevent after all these years. I def think he is one of the better mainstream rappers we have. Kanye is a better rapper than him though and thats not saying much. I can see why Jay was hesitant to fukk wit him cause the nicca outshines him on almost every song.

I do wish people would stop hyping Jay up to be some business savvy genius dude has one too many failed business ventures for that title. Who still wears Rocawear? Sdots? Ace of Spades is disgusting and only flashy hoodrats who dont know any better drink it. Yes he's reportedly worth half a billi, if you were a senior citizen who had been selling platinum records for half your life you would be rich too.

Again im not trying to take away from the fact that Jay has talent, but he is grossly overrated. Much like his wife.

Roc a wear did not fail, it ran it's course.

S dot first non athlete with a shoe ( yet y'all compare him to these silly rappers)

Ace of spade is $330 a bottle ther are No hood rats that can afford a glass of that. Spade is for rich yuppie white kids.

 

[CrimsonTider]

A lot of yall still don't get. You think BP3 is wack? Ok, how is that relevant to the premise of this thread?

Jay z has more responsibility to than these other rappers. Nas just made a n album( which I love) for nikkas stuck in the 90s

When Jay makes an album he has to satisfy the media, the radio, hiphop heads, Internet nerds and the record label need his album for the year to be deemed a success.



How about this for an exercise, all these rappers that are in Jay z class.

List the stuff they have done that Jigga hasn't done.

Now, list All of the stuff that Jay has done that they haven't.

What's more impressive

I'll wait

 

[Loose]

A lot of yall still don't get. You think BP3 is wack? Ok, how is that relevant to the premise of this thread?

Jay z has more responsibility to than these other rappers. Nas just made a n album( which I love) for nikkas stuck in the 90s

When Jay makes an album he has to satisfy the media, the radio, hiphop heads, Internet nerds and the record label need his album for the year to be deemed a success.



How about this for an exercise, all these rappers that are in Jay z class.

List the stuff they have done that Jigga hasn't done.

Now, list of the stuff that Jay has done that they haven't.

What's more impressive

I'll wait

so you admitting jay-z is a sell out

 

[CrimsonTider]

He said this in 2002... 10 years ago!!!!!

But nobody in rap did it, quite like I did it
If you did it I done it before, you get I had it
Got mad at it and don't want it no more
And that goes for EVERYTHING

 

[CrimsonTider]

so you admitting jay-z is a sell out

How is that selling out? That's responsibitly to a culture, that's talent and the ability to stay relevant.

 

[Loose]

How is that selling out? That's responsibitly to a culture, that's talent and the ability to stay relevant.

if you cant make music true to your self, and have to please others than yes you're a SELLOUT. but i forget jay wanted to get his dollas up