Why Does Detroit Hip-Hop Sound Like Cali (More Specifically The Bay) Hip-Hop?

[Solomon Lurke]

I was literally just having a conversation about tracing the influences of the Detroit street sound. I know a lot of people of my generation listened to a lot of Bay Area music. As a kid, E 40 and The Click was one of the few things I could listen to in the car with my pops. He got into it since he was heavy into funk and they had an element of those bass lines. I do think a lot of artists early on built off Bay music but more recently I think Detroit is influencing new Cali artists just as much. It has definitely been a connection between the two cities, which I’m not sure yet where that began. Other things we’ve been discussing is the fast tempos of Detroit street music. My dude thinks it’s a direct correlation to our ghetto tech scene which had a lot of Detroit DJs pitching records up to faster speeds even when playing regular songs in the mix.

 

[Trot LaRoc]

The beat styles and vocal inflections are similar but the actual rap styles are different.

I dont think its biting....just seems to be mutual influence and respect between the D and the Bay

 

[Ol’Otis]

detroit is the origin. the question is when did california starting biting us

we didn't bite
we carried

our (Cali) have roots in the south and midwest

 

[Ol’Otis]

drug connection too

Melvin Butler and Eddie Jackson

 

[96Blue]

I was literally having a conversation about tracing the influences of the Detroit street sound. I know a lot of people of my generation listened to a lot of Bay Area music. As a kid, E 40 and click was one of the few things I could listen to in the car with my pops. He got into it since he was heavy into funk and they had an element of those bass lines. I do think a lot of artists early on built off Bay music but more recently I think Detroit is influencing new Cali artists just as much. It has definitely been a connection between the two cities, which I’m sure yet where that began. Other things we’ve been discussing is the fast tempos of Detroit street music. My dude thinks it’s a direct correlation to our ghetto tech scene which had a lot of Detroit DJs pitching records up to faster speeds even when playing regular songs in the mix.

I forgot techno started in Detroit.

 

[pawdalaw]

Too Short told yall in the 80s that Detroit and the bay was the same.

 

[blockburna420]

From the mid 90's

 

[Mindfield333]

learned something new in here

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

If anything both the Bay and Detroit got heavily influenced by Cash Money Records as far as them "Detroit hustling" type of beats go. A lot of these songs that were posted in the OP got that Juvie/Mannie Fresh drum pattern and bounce. The drums on that Cash Kidd track sound like some shyt off of Solja Rags straight up.






Hood nikkas in the Midwest and the Bay Area were all listening to a lot of the same shyt in the late 90s/2000's, it's no surprise the street music sounds very similar If you ask me that Cash Money era was the peak of street Hip Hop anyway, that shyt was crazy influential on nikkas from New York to Oakland and back.

 

[Kalut]

The bays “mob” sound and that new (sorry if I’m wrong, I ain’t up on game when it comes to Detroit music other than new stuff) Detroit sound both use that same Moog/bass sound...All them Detroit folk are always out here in Vallejo cause they got ties to Cheese, Fik and the Sick Wid It fam...

 

[NormanConnors]

Shyt is weird to me.

Sada Baby & Drego - Bloxk Party


Team Eastside Peezy - I'm Good PT 3


Cash Kidd - On My Mama


When did Detroit start making hip-hop like this and who was the first person to do it?

no it doesnt, cats on this board always late hopping onto to Detroit shyt, then dont want to give credit when credit is due. Detroit music wise has been a mixed bag since its inception.

 

[NormanConnors]

detroit is the origin. the question is when did california starting biting us

close thread

 

[NormanConnors]

If anything both the Bay and Detroit got heavily influenced by Cash Money Records as far as them "Detroit hustling" type of beats go. A lot of these songs that were posted in the OP got that Juvie/Mannie Fresh drum pattern and bounce. The drums on that Cash Kidd track sound like some shyt off of Solja Rags straight up.






Hood nikkas in the Midwest and the Bay Area were all listening to a lot of the same shyt in the late 90s/2000's, it's no surprise the street music sounds very similar If you ask me that Cash Money era was the peak of street Hip Hop anyway, that shyt was crazy influential on nikkas from New York to Oakland and back.

 

[Kyle Barker]

I even see Bay and Detroit nikkas argue over who started that bust down dance Blueface does. Like how is there even confusion on that?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Cash money dominated the streets for literally a decade. That Detroit hustling sound was not around at the same time as cash money and first started showing up 3-5 years after cash money blew up in 99. They had a direct influence on the production whether or not it’s admitted