Why does everyone think Ray Kroc “stole” McDonald’s from the McDonald brothers?

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Nah. Zuckerberg didn’t steal sh1t. Everyone’s got ideas. It’s the person who has the ability to bring those ideas to life that deserves credit. The winkleblahblah brothers had an idea for something and didn’t have the programming skills to implement it. Mark did. He wrote all the code. It’s like thinking up flying cars and someone goes and builds one. Then u wanna proclaim it was your idea. Like wtf.
Nope he straight up stole it … they paid a coder who took the idea for himself … they should’ve made him sign contracts but still… I’m surprised he never got physically hurt for that …
 

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Didn't Ray keep telling them to expand and they didn't want to? Then they refused to cut him in on any additional profits that he was making possible so he was like ok cool and worked out real estate rental deals with franchisees which they didn't even know about but it made him huge profits that he then used to buy them out with. :pachaha:
 
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Didn't Ray keep telling them to expand and they didn't want to? Then they refused to cut him in on any additional profits that he was making possible so he was like ok cool and worked out real estate rental deals with franchisees which they didn't even know about but it made him huge profits that he then used to buy them out with. :pachaha:

Basically, I'm still confused about exactly what the real estate shyt is all about.

So he started a holding company where he basically leased or bought the land and then sub-leased it to franchisees in the best suburbs of America?
 

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He didn’t lose he settled and then the twins tried to turn around and sue again years later and THEY lost
He also settled when he tried to dilute his cofounders shares. He's a dirtbag not sure why you keep tryin g to brush off his defeats.

Zuckerberg was hired to create an app from their idea. Just because you're the programmer doesn't make it right.
 

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What a load of nonsense. These brothers are depicted as victims who had their business stolen by this evil man Ray Kroc.

First of all it was Ray Kroc who turned McDonald’s into what it is now; a multibillion dollar world wide food giant. If it wasn’t for him, McDonald’s would’ve disappeared into history alongside the thousands of small restaurants throughout history. The brothers were simply happy to run their little restaurant in their little town, make their money and that was it. They had no ambition to expand and become a big. It was Ray Kroc who did that. Turned it into a franchise, set standards that every McDonald’s restaurant anywhere must follow or lose the licence and that’s what made them successful

Second of all, the brothers even when Ray Kroc was working his ass off doing all the work and making them money while they did nothing, did everything they could to sabotage him. Jealousy or whatever reason I don’t know.

Thirdly when he finally decided to buy them out, they were paid very well. Millions of dollars. These brothers retired comfortably as one of the richest men in America thanks to aRay Kroc. They’re not some sorry victims who Ray Kroc took advantage of.

I just finished reading “The Founder” book after watching the movie. Go read the book brehs. one of the best biographies and business books you will ever read
that netflix movie made him look like a b*stard
 

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Basically, I'm still confused about exactly what the real estate shyt is all about.

So he started a holding company where he basically leased or bought the land and then sub-leased it to franchisees in the best suburbs of America?
From the movie, he put the land all the restaurants were built on in his name.
 
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He also settled when he tried to dilute his cofounders shares. He's a dirtbag not sure why you keep tryin g to brush off his defeats.

Zuckerberg was hired to create an app from their idea. Just because you're the programmer doesn't make it right.


I’m not brushing off his “defeats” i’m putting everything in proper context.

He didn’t steal from those twins, he NEVER used any code or programming that they originated. They sued, he settled to get them off his back, they tried to sue AGAIN and they were the ones who lost. Thats the facts of the situation.

Him diluting the shares of his co-founders is scumbag shyt of the highest order but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact he was the one who created the site, wrote ALL the code, and programmed ALL the features that have gone down in history as innovations in social media. Zuckerberg is in no way comparable to Ray Kroc. Thats the point.
 

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I’m not brushing off his “defeats” i’m putting everything in proper context.

He didn’t steal from those twins, he NEVER used any code or programming that they originated. They sued, he settled to get them off his back, they tried to sue AGAIN and they were the ones who lost. Thats the facts of the situation.

Him diluting the shares of his co-founders is scumbag shyt of the highest order but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact he was the one who created the site, wrote ALL the code, and programmed ALL the features that have gone down in history as innovations in social media. Zuckerberg is in no way comparable to Ray Kroc. Thats the point.
He was hired to do a job, you dont have intellectual property claims just because you were the developer and you added tour own flourishes. im not comparing the 2 but Zuckerberg was just as big a scumbag.
 

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McDonald's is fukking trash, dude should've let the McDonald brothers keep that shyt

Here you coli nikkas go

“McDonald’s is trash”

“I haven’t had McDonald’s in 20 years!”

Yet it’s still one of the most successful businesses & have long lines more often than not
 

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Here you coli nikkas go

“McDonald’s is trash”

“I haven’t had McDonald’s in 20 years!”

Yet it’s still one of the most successful businesses & have long lines more often than not
We're one of the fattest countries in the world

I said it's trash and you haven't disputed that yet. Nobody enjoys eating there, nobody enjoys working there. Flabby people go there because they're lazy and there's one on every corner
 

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We're one of the fattest countries in the world

I said it's trash and you haven't disputed that yet. Nobody enjoys eating there, nobody enjoys working there. Flabby people go there because they're lazy and there's one on every corner
Mcdonald’s was here before you and going to remain long after, stay mad :umad:
 
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