Why does it seem that hip-hop is only "destructive" to...certain "communities"?

[Taadow]

I think the other @Malik thread was an interesting discussion we can continue.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

Hip-Hop is the result of already frayed and disenfranchised communities.

 

[Couth]

Not just hip hop. Its hip hop combined with other things.

Namely;
Poverty
Ignorance
Lack of Parental units (dads locked up)
Access to drugs/weapons/gangs

shyt is just a lot more real in black communities. White kid in the suburbs can bump keef all he wants. But he has no access to that lifestyle so at the end of the day the hardest shyt hes ever gonna do is smoke while driving or say nikka while hes fighting another whiteboy.

Kid whose from the block sees that type of shyt everyday. So when you have rappers glorifying the lifestyle and making it seem like the easy way to get ahead of course a lot of kids are gonna jump on that. When you have kids who can't afford to buy shyt, can barely eat, and they're watching the dopeboys walking around shining with big wads of money (when only like 1/4th of that big ass wad is even profit) of course they're gonna want to get linked up.

And the biggest problem really is the young black men. Dudes in their 20s 30s who put on these little ass kids to work for them. Kids that are like in middle school walking around holding dope for these nikkas. Serving dope for these nikkas. Its wrong. Cuz most of those kids have no priors. But once you get them involved in the game its not long before they end up in the system. And once you're in the system you really don't have any legal route to take to get money. Your choices are pretty much hustle or work manual labor. These older nikkas have been through the system so they realize that, yet they still go out and corrupt kids.

Idk just a big ass cycle of ignorance that needs to be broken

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Not just hip hop. Its hip hop combined with other things.

Namely;
Poverty
Ignorance
Lack of Parental units (dads locked up)
Access to drugs/weapons/gangs

shyt is just a lot more real in black communities. White kid in the suburbs can bump keef all he wants. But he has no access to that lifestyle so at the end of the day the hardest shyt hes ever gonna do is smoke while driving or say nikka while hes fighting another whiteboy.

Kid whose from the block sees that type of shyt everyday. So when you have rappers glorifying the lifestyle and making it seem like the easy way to get ahead of course a lot of kids are gonna jump on that. When you have kids who can't afford to buy shyt, can barely eat, and they're watching the dopeboys walking around shining with big wads of money of course they're gonna want to get linked up.

And the biggest problem really is the young black men. Dudes in their 20s 30s who put on these little ass kids to work for them. Kids that are like in middle school walking around holding dope for these nikkas. Serving dope for these nikkas. Its wrong. Cuz most of those kids have no priors. But once you get them involved in the game its not long before they end up in the system. And once you're in the system you really don't have any legal route to take to get money. Your choices are pretty much hustle or work manual labor. These older nikkas have been through the system so they realize that, yet they still go out and corrupt kids.

Idk just a big ass cycle of ignorance that needs to be broken

You're on a tear lately.

 

[Taadow]

So when you have rappers glorifying the lifestyle and making it seem like the easy way to get ahead of course a lot of kids are gonna jump on that.

Now let's talk about this for a second...

is it rapping about what's happening "glorifying" it generally?
Is talking about that lifestyle always "making seem like the easy way"?

 

[Taadow]

Hip-Hop is the result of already frayed and disenfranchised communities.

Isn't that the way it was supposed to be, though?

Such "frayed and disenfranchised communites" made this to be their voice because they had none...

 

[Easy-E]

Not just hip hop. Its hip hop combined with other things.

Namely;
Poverty
Ignorance
Lack of Parental units (dads locked up)
Access to drugs/weapons/gangs

shyt is just a lot more real in black communities. White kid in the suburbs can bump keef all he wants. But he has no access to that lifestyle so at the end of the day the hardest shyt hes ever gonna do is smoke while driving or say nikka while hes fighting another whiteboy.

Kid whose from the block sees that type of shyt everyday. So when you have rappers glorifying the lifestyle and making it seem like the easy way to get ahead of course a lot of kids are gonna jump on that. When you have kids who can't afford to buy shyt, can barely eat, and they're watching the dopeboys walking around shining with big wads of money (when only like 1/4th of that big ass wad is even profit) of course they're gonna want to get linked up.

And the biggest problem really is the young black men. Dudes in their 20s 30s who put on these little ass kids to work for them. Kids that are like in middle school walking around holding dope for these nikkas. Serving dope for these nikkas. Its wrong. Cuz most of those kids have no priors. But once you get them involved in the game its not long before they end up in the system. And once you're in the system you really don't have any legal route to take to get money. Your choices are pretty much hustle or work manual labor. These older nikkas have been through the system so they realize that, yet they still go out and corrupt kids.

Idk just a big ass cycle of ignorance that needs to be broken

I want to dap, but, two things;

• We need to eliminate this lie that mainstream Rap music does not represent American culture at large. 1, the biggest consumer Rap music are young, white males. The industry is playin' to the biggest market. Look at the top movies, weekly, over the last year. I'm sure 80% played to violence and sex. Debauchery, misogyny, materialism and violence aren't some values hidden in the ghettos of America.
• I'm done with this idea that rap music is increasing crime. It lets the crooks in the private prison industry off the hook. Crime (especially violent crime) has gone down exponentially since the 80's. And I wish I had the graphic, on me, but; black boys are doin much better in school since then. Not that any of those things, you posted, are lies, but, correlation =/= causation. We live in a world where white people use and sell drugs more than us, but, we make up 3/4 of those locked up for non-violent drug crimes.

Hip-Hop does not cause anything in the black community.

It may promote a bad image of black people. But, Hip started in the mid 70's, a small period of time of black people being discriminated and hated, this country.

 

[Matt504]

The kids (10-23) want to be just like Chief Keef in the area I live in (Houston).

 

[Dwolf]

Weak minded individuals are easily influenced. If it wasn't rap then it would be something else.

 

[Detroit Wave]

Not just hip hop. Its hip hop combined with other things.

Namely;
Poverty
Ignorance
Lack of Parental units (dads locked up)
Access to drugs/weapons/gangs

shyt is just a lot more real in black communities. White kid in the suburbs can bump keef all he wants. But he has no access to that lifestyle so at the end of the day the hardest shyt hes ever gonna do is smoke while driving or say nikka while hes fighting another whiteboy.

Kid whose from the block sees that type of shyt everyday. So when you have rappers glorifying the lifestyle and making it seem like the easy way to get ahead of course a lot of kids are gonna jump on that. When you have kids who can't afford to buy shyt, can barely eat, and they're watching the dopeboys walking around shining with big wads of money (when only like 1/4th of that big ass wad is even profit) of course they're gonna want to get linked up.

And the biggest problem really is the young black men. Dudes in their 20s 30s who put on these little ass kids to work for them. Kids that are like in middle school walking around holding dope for these nikkas. Serving dope for these nikkas. Its wrong. Cuz most of those kids have no priors. But once you get them involved in the game its not long before they end up in the system. And once you're in the system you really don't have any legal route to take to get money. Your choices are pretty much hustle or work manual labor. These older nikkas have been through the system so they realize that, yet they still go out and corrupt kids.

Idk just a big ass cycle of ignorance that needs to be broken

I want to dap, but, two things;

• We need to eliminate this lie that mainstream Rap music does not represent American culture at large. 1, the biggest consumer Rap music are young, white males. The industry is playin' to the biggest market. Look at the top movies, weekly, over the last year. I'm sure 80% played to violence and sex. Debauchery, misogyny, materialism and violence aren't some values hidden in the ghettos of America.
• I'm done with this idea that rap music is increasing crime. It lets the crooks in the private prison industry off the hook. Crime (especially violent crime) has gone down exponentially since the 80's. And I wish I had the graphic, on me, but; black boys are doin much better in school since then. Not that any of those things, you posted, are lies, but, correlation =/= causation. We live in a world where white people use and sell drugs more than us, but, we make up 3/4 of those locked up for non-violent drug crimes.

Hip-Hop does not cause anything in the black community.

It may promote a bad image of black people. But, Hip started in the mid 70's, a small period of time of black people being discriminated and hated, this country.

 

[Fart Knocker]

Not just hip hop. Its hip hop combined with other things.

Namely;
Poverty
Ignorance
Lack of Parental units (dads locked up)
Access to drugs/weapons/gangs

shyt is just a lot more real in black communities. White kid in the suburbs can bump keef all he wants. But he has no access to that lifestyle so at the end of the day the hardest shyt hes ever gonna do is smoke while driving or say nikka while hes fighting another whiteboy.

Kid whose from the block sees that type of shyt everyday. So when you have rappers glorifying the lifestyle and making it seem like the easy way to get ahead of course a lot of kids are gonna jump on that. When you have kids who can't afford to buy shyt, can barely eat, and they're watching the dopeboys walking around shining with big wads of money (when only like 1/4th of that big ass wad is even profit) of course they're gonna want to get linked up.

And the biggest problem really is the young black men. Dudes in their 20s 30s who put on these little ass kids to work for them. Kids that are like in middle school walking around holding dope for these nikkas. Serving dope for these nikkas. Its wrong. Cuz most of those kids have no priors. But once you get them involved in the game its not long before they end up in the system. And once you're in the system you really don't have any legal route to take to get money. Your choices are pretty much hustle or work manual labor. These older nikkas have been through the system so they realize that, yet they still go out and corrupt kids.

Idk just a big ass cycle of ignorance that needs to be broken

malice from the clipse pretty much said something just like this when asked why he isnt a "gangster" rapper anymore

 

[Taadow]

I want to dap, but, two things;

• We need to eliminate this lie that mainstream Rap music does not represent American culture at large. 1, the biggest consumer Rap music are young, white males. The industry is playin' to the biggest market. Look at the top movies, weekly, over the last year. I'm sure 80% played to violence and sex. Debauchery, misogyny, materialism and violence aren't some values hidden in the ghettos of America.
• I'm done with this idea that rap music is increasing crime. It lets the crooks in the private prison industry off the hook. Crime (especially violent crime) has gone down exponentially since the 80's. And I wish I had the graphic, on me, but; black boys are doin much better in school since then. Not that any of those things, you posted, are lies, but, correlation =/= causation. We live in a world where white people use and sell drugs more than us, but, we make up 3/4 of those locked up for non-violent drug crimes.

Hip-Hop does not cause anything in the black community.

It may promote a bad image of black people. But, Hip started in the mid 70's, a small period of time of black people being discriminated and hated, this country.

I can dig. Now saying this:

aren't other "communities" influenced by rap as well? How come they aren't saying anything about
how destructive it is? If anything, they seem to be embracing it...

 

[Easy-E]

I can dig. Now saying this:

aren't other "communities" influenced by rap as well? How come they aren't saying anything about
how destructive it is? If anything, they seem to be embracing it...

There's this sick need to make black people out to be either extraordinary great or notoriously bad.

Hip-Hop features mostly black acts, so, it's easier.

Plus, white folk, in the media, don't make a habit out of demonizing one another.

There's 40 Million black folk in America, but, there's 40 million white people living below the poverty line. Yet, anytime Fox News complains about lazy/poor people they're talking about black and brown people.

 

[Mowgli]

What would hiphop be if black families weren't run by women.....and cacs weren't devils

 

[Mowgli]

I can dig. Now saying this:

aren't other "communities" influenced by rap as well? How come they aren't saying anything about
how destructive it is? If anything, they seem to be embracing it...

Because whites are raised on murder and mayhem so hiphop isn't far from how they feel inside. Also as long as they have the money they won't feel the effects of disenfranchisement.