Why does JAY Z hate CAMRON ?

[No Homo]

I can't speak about now but there was a lot of tension 15+ years ago. Yes Uptown dudes are focused on getting money but also known for slick talking and being HYPER competitive for no damn reason at all. Cam & Mase were very close but did you see the look of disgust on Mase's face when Cam took that last shot? There's a lot of internal tension in Harlem because there's a constant desire to be the guy getting the most attention even amongst your own crew. We picked each other apart for fun, that's just how it was. We went at each others chicks, that's just how it was.
BK dudes had the rep for being grimy & and more low key. We (Harlem dudes) were easy to spot because we were so boisterous and flashy . It just didn't mix well, especially back in the day when Brooklyn had all the stick up kids & Decepts running around. I'm not going to lie I had to maneuver through situations where n!ggas thought I was food. I remember N!ggas tried to run down on me coming out of BFO's, I had just copped 3 new rugbys & I had to put those skates on to avoid the jux .
All my 90's cats NYC cats should remember BFO's.
http://www.14to42.net/20street2.html
I would never go to BK for a chick multiple generations of people out on the block for no reason at all, and they all know you're from around there.

Anyway I'm kinda all over the place but I'm sure it was a personality clash for the most part. Jay was used to people coming in and somewhat quietly playing their position. I don't doubt Cam let him know off top that eventually he wanted his spot.

Na you spot on fam.

 

[wizworld]

Doubt it had anything to do with BK vs Harlem when for years Jay and Dame was mad close and Cam had Big Joe

Different boroughs/neighborhoods in NY have a little rivalry over which is the best but there is no all out beef between any of them

Jay needed Dame up until a point. But when they did fall out it was pretty epic.
And unless I'm mistaken Cam has fallen out with Big Joe multiple times. In fact Big Joe was there when Tru Life snuffed Cam. I remember a video interview/blog with Big Joe where he said Cam expected him to put hands on Tru Life for him because he was on probation. Big Joe basically told Cam FOH, I'm not your bodyguard, I'm your manager.

 

[vaudevillevillain]

Cam alluded to Jay having him

i think the word you were looking for is snitched.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

reading this thread like Harlem vs BK don't exist? I got beat up on the 4 train for being from Harlem

nikkas get on at Atlantic avenue: You from Harlem right?
Me: LES
Them: We don't like Harlem nikkas
Me:



BK nikkas coming to Harlem for chicks? Puerto rican day aside we was going to Queens & The heights for chicks. fukk was you coming to harlem for we gotta have the ugliest black women in the city fukk it the country

Harlem Vs Bx? never heard of that, Mott haven just like east harlem, same fashion, same slang, same gangs.

I guess everyone got different experiences

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

Some artist just don't get it

E40 doesn't understand why he's never did a song with Dre
Warren G doesn't understand why he's never did a song with Dre

Dre isn't gonna do a song if he isn't feelin him

However I can see how guys don't understand. It is the music business. Plenty of artist do music together even if they aren''t feeling the other just because it's a "good look."

Now Jay has done a song with Cam, but I believe it's because Cam got himself hot at the time.

what??

they have done songs together

 

[theflyest]

what??

they have done songs together

Name me a Dr. Dre & Warren G song niigga

Dre never fukked with Warren's music like that. I was surprised he went out of his way to produce the game don't wait remix

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I've never seen this evidence that Jay hates Cam. Jay doesn't keep Cam's name in his mouth all the time. Jay doesn't constantly try and son Cam in public and private. The only proof is Cam's constant mentioning of Jay, which points to Cam being the one with the hate in his heart.

Jay has always been a in the midst of confrontation ass nikka. Very passive aggressive. Just because your simple ass doesn't see it, doesn't mean it's not happening. Jay siccing Tru Life on the Dips for example. U probably still think Imaginary Players isn't about anyone in particular. "B-b-but he didnt say names"

 

[360dagod]

reading this thread like Harlem vs BK don't exist? I got beat up on the 4 train for being from Harlem

nikkas get on at Atlantic avenue: You from Harlem right?
Me: LES
Them: We don't like Harlem nikkas
Me:



BK nikkas coming to Harlem for chicks? Puerto rican day aside we was going to Queens & The heights for chicks. fukk was you coming to harlem for we gotta have the ugliest black women in the city fukk it the country

Harlem Vs Bx? never heard of that, Mott haven just like east harlem, same fashion, same slang, same gangs.

I guess everyone got different experiences

shyt,at this point its the bronx vs the bronx....lol

I dont fukk with brooklyn at all...

I stay local

 

[Malik]

jay wanted to be the clear cut swag master at roc a fella.......cam came through like and jay felt threatened and the rest is history

I was gonna make this thread after I saw this topic on IC. Jay couldn't stand Cam because.......and alot of people forget this......but Cam was really that dude in 2002. Ja, Nelly, Em, X and Jay were heavy hitters but, Cam had a hot year and nikkas started to feel the movement Jay couldn't have nobody on the Roc undermining him

The Throwback Era ​

 

[360dagod]

I was gonna make this thread after I saw this topic on IC. Jay couldn't stand Cam because.......and alot of people forget this......but Cam was really that dude in 2002. Ja, Nelly, Em, X and Jay were heavy hitters but, Cam had a hot year and nikkas started to feel the movement Jay couldn't have nobody on the Roc undermining him

Killa was doing shyt with Mariah....He was on the move

 

[BulletProof]

I was gonna make this thread after I saw this topic on IC. Jay couldn't stand Cam because.......and alot of people forget this......but Cam was really that dude in 2002. Ja, Nelly, Em, X and Jay were heavy hitters but, Cam had a hot year and nikkas started to feel the movement Jay couldn't have nobody on the Roc undermining him

The Throwback Era ​

Cam was hitting his commercial peak in 2002 (not saying all that much and I like the guy) but that was Em's year.

 

[K-ZOE]

haha yeah, cause 125 is like black 34th street just like Fordham RD, Downtown BK and all those other areas. It's for everyone to feast and that wasn't yall spot that was everybody's spot. Taking pictures and everything. I grew up right on 125 in the 90's.

Our spot we went to man, be easy. I'm not planting flags.

 

[Malik]

Over a decade later and Cam is still on that "bu bu Why he don't like me man?" Cam just comes across as a scorned fan talking about Jay, a real life stan type. He says that Jay hopped on some of his joints but he didn't put 'em out because he didn't like the verses meanwhile this cat has been on mad tracks with cats spitting wack shyt. How many songs does he have with Jim for goodness sake? That just makes no sense. Even if Jay came wack, you put the shyt out just on the strength of his name. If the tracks really exist, it's another explanation for them not coming out. The reality is that when Cam 1st got to Rocafella he was on Jay's piece. I still remember an interview he did after 1st signing, and he was talking about having RD(Can I Live specifically) on repeat. For whatever reason, Jay ain't never fukk with him and he's felt some type of way ever since.

How is Cam the scorned one when Freezey Zekey got thrown out of the 40/40 club a few months ago?

Cam the scorned one but, Jay won't let any DipSet songs be played at his club either

I doubt you even watched the interview. Cam answered every question, from Jay to everything else, completely coolheaded and calm.

 

[K-ZOE]

I can't speak about now but there was a lot of tension 15+ years ago. Yes Uptown dudes are focused on getting money but also known for slick talking and being HYPER competitive for no damn reason at all. Cam & Mase were very close but did you see the look of disgust on Mase's face when Cam took that last shot? There was a lot of internal tension in Harlem because there's a constant desire to be the guy getting the most attention even amongst your own crew. We picked each other apart for fun, that's just how it was. We went at each others chicks, that's just how it was.
BK dudes had the rep for being grimy & and more low key. We (Harlem dudes) were easy to spot because we were so boisterous and flashy . It just didn't mix well, especially back in the day when Brooklyn had all the stick up kids & Decepts running around. I'm not going to lie I had to maneuver through situations where n!ggas thought I was food. I remember N!ggas tried to run down on me coming out of BFO's, I had just copped 3 new rugbys & I had to put those skates on to avoid the jux .
All my 90's cats NYC cats should remember BFO's.
http://www.14to42.net/20street2.html
I would never go to BK for a chick multiple generations of people out on the block for no reason at all, and they all know you're from around there.

Anyway I'm kinda all over the place but I'm sure it was a personality clash for the most part. Jay was used to people coming in and somewhat quietly playing their position. I don't doubt Cam let him know off top that eventually he wanted his spot.

Mase was mad cuz he was wide da fukk open and Cam took a 30 foot runner

 

[Rekkapryde]

He said at age 22, Mase had about 8 or 9 mill. How did he get that much and his album only sold 4 mill and e know he was makin less than dollar per record sold and puffy most def owned his music . Where he get that kind of dough from?

touring and his advance maybe?