Why does JAY Z hate CAMRON ?

[TheLoneRanger]

Because Cam isn't a yes man or a groupie and said no that verse is wack i don't want it and Jay isn't used to that and got upset and took it personal.

 

[Malik]

Cam is like the unsuccessful younger brother of Nas and Jay.

Maybe if we're talking about the Trump family The brother who made a few million would look broke to the brother who made 500 million.

To the average american though, Cam is extremely successful

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Cam got you dummies thinking Jay is concerned about him simply because he said "Cam made millions". He named every dude on the ROC but for some reason Cam thought that was a shot at him? There's always been tension between them dudes going back to the 90's. Stupid Dame thought he had more power than he really did and tried to make Cam VP of the ROC while Jay was out the country. Not only did Jay shut that move down when he got back but of course that was at least a factor in the split. Now look at the result.

you mad late dog. everything cam said in that interview was already said by mad people on this board and in real life, before cam even responded to the line. so how does cam have anybody fooled?

and he shouldnt have been droppin cam's name at all to begin with. he aint do nothin for dude.

and if you cant see that he took a pop-shot at cam with that line, then i cant help you.

 

[Harry B]

cell-phone commercial that was out a year or 2 ago when dude thought he didnt get invited, but his phone was just late accepting the text. so he walked over talking mad chit to everybody, then his phone finally went off right afterwards.

"you even invited jerry? i thought you said he gave you the creeps!!!???".........its a modern-day classic commercial.

as for jay/cam, its obvious that cam has always been a thorn in jay's side. jay always been a funny-bunny type. jaz-o called that whole chit. cam is a boss that aint taking no shorts, while jay prefers to deal with patsy people and/or those that are willing to just be soldiers. they had no chance of co-existing. i didnt know jay was gonna keep throwing rocks and hiding his hands 10 years later tho. what a bi*ch.

its no conspiracy. i can smell a dude like jay a mile away. hes the type to shoot his own brother out of jealousy.......oh wait......didnt he already do that?

Cam was Jay-z's employee not partner.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Brooklyn vs Harlem just a ny thing...you gotta be from here to understand it

please elaborate for those who dont know the history.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I know this is the internet but you guys state speculation as a matter of fact and that's crazy. You're not the worst example of this, but you're just the most recent post. You have the few Jay advocates defending him without knowing what he's like and all the typical Jay haters hating on him so hard and stating their assumptions as facts just like the dude you just quoted. I mean no one knows why they don't fukk with each other, but it's not like in the late 90s everybody wasn't hoping Rocafella would fall off. But if I have a lot of house parties, and I don't fukk with you and tell people that you're not allowed to come into my crib....that doesn't just expire because years have passed. It doesn't mean I'm thinking about you at all. It just means that there is no reason for us to be fake and act like it's all good or for me to send out the memo that it's okay if you come in. I'm not even thinking about you. The bigger question is...since you're a boss and you don't fukk with me....why do you even want to come to my establishment....

The fact is, Dipset talked a lot of shyt, and if there can be bad blood between actual crews in hip hop...why are we expecting less of a hang up among people who weren't ever really in the same camp.

why dont you quote me head up instead of making slick remarks? no wonder youre in here trying to defend jay on the sly.

nobody is claiming to know the true core of the problem. and nobody is claiming to know these dudes. but you dont have to know someone personally in order to spot the obvious. i dont have to have a sit-down interview with jay to see that hes a funny-style cat. ive seen more than enough of his movements for nearly 2 decades now, and all accounts people have of dude, basically go back to that same common denominator. smarten up.

and camron didnt want to come to his establishment. he was talking about freaky zeekey and he also said that they dont allow the djs to play dipset music - which is petty.

 

[Rice N Beans]

Cam looking kinda flabuloso...

 

[b. woods]

Cam looking kinda flabuloso...

:stopitflab:

 

[Cloud McFly]

and he shouldnt have been droppin cam's name at all to begin with. he aint do nothin for dude.

Without Jay making The Roc what it was through his hard work, Cam signing to them would have never been a big deal. Hell, dude was not only the one cutting his checks, but also Executive Producer of his biggest album, that he also guest featured on, yet you say he didn't do anything.

he also said that they dont allow the djs to play dipset music - which is petty.

I'd do the same to anyone who ever tried disrespecting me and never apologized. Until then, fukk em.

 

[Still Benefited]

Without Jay making The Roc what it was through his hard work, Cam signing to them would have never been a big deal. Hell, dude was not only the one cutting his checks, but also Executive Producer of his biggest album, that he also guest featured on, yet you say he didn't do anything.




I'd do the same to anyone who ever tried disrespecting me and never apologized. Until then, fukk em.

exactly,I don't even know if its on jays orders to not play they music or if its just more of a common sense thing....its Jays club so whoever does the playlist likely wouldn't put no damn Dipset songs on there,and what undeniable club records these nikkas done had out recently that should be getting play but aint?

dipset stans think Jay should be cool with Cam like he is with Nas,but its a difference when its a mutual respect thing on sum level and yall sparring. I don't know if Jay respects Cam on any level as a person or musician,seems like Cam is just some nikka who annoyed him at some point.....I don't know if that Pound Cake verse was a diss or not but I guess it could be taken that way....kinda like acknowledged if Beans wasn't in his feelings he would tell u the truth cuz he a real nikka,but maybe that Cam wouldn't cuz he aint....but that's one helluva reach

 

[The Hovering Heed]

i need explanations not some weak ass saying.

 

[usopp]

cam smashed beyonce first

she's not aging well either

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Without Jay making The Roc what it was through his hard work, Cam signing to them would have never been a big deal. Hell, dude was not only the one cutting his checks, but also Executive Producer of his biggest album, that he also guest featured on, yet you say he didn't do anything.
I'd do the same to anyone who ever tried disrespecting me and never apologized. Until then, fukk em.

this is revisionist history.

dame made rocafella what it was, much moreso than jay.

camron signing anywhere in 2001 was a big deal. rocafella benefited just as much from the camron signing as camron benefited from rocafella. it was a 2-way street.

you do know that "executive producer" is usually just a title, right? you really think jay was hands-on with dipset projects? lets just dwell on that one whole song that jay did with them.

if the 40/40 banned every rapper that disrespected jay, then they wouldnt have much of a quality playlist up there. lets be reality, jay got his feelings hurt. and you act as if dipset disrespected him for no reason. as opposed to rappers that actually did disrespect him with no priors, yet have no ban on their chit. stop defending this funny nicca. HES A FUNNY NICCA. no way around it. just let it rock and enjoy the f*ckery.

exactly,I don't even know if its on jays orders to not play they music or if its just more of a common sense thing....its Jays club so whoever does the playlist likely wouldn't put no damn Dipset songs on there,and what undeniable club records these nikkas done had out recently that should be getting play but aint?

dipset stans think Jay should be cool with Cam like he is with Nas,but its a difference when its a mutual respect thing on sum level and yall sparring. I don't know if Jay respects Cam on any level as a person or musician,seems like Cam is just some nikka who annoyed him at some point.....I don't know if that Pound Cake verse was a diss or not but I guess it could be taken that way....kinda like acknowledged if Beans wasn't in his feelings he would tell u the truth cuz he a real nikka,but maybe that Cam wouldn't cuz he aint....but that's one helluva reach

i had stop reading after the 1st paragraph.

you know youre the homie, youre always way out of your jurisdiction when youre defending jay. youre always out of the loop on east coast matters. jay must be the only east coast rapper you follow or something.

 

[Street Knowledge]

I just never felt jay respected cam as an MC/Artist like that.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I just never felt jay respected cam as an MC/Artist like that.

yes he did. at least as an MC. actions speak louder than words.

you can tell he feared dealing with cam by the way he p*ssy-footed around the battle, and then all the side-show f*ckery he resorted to when cam started getting in his ass.

Nas too. and he told on himself even further when he went on record saying that he feared big l.

dont let these stiffs fool you.