Just seen the edit, you not heard Encore no? Lol. Just Loose It, Fack, Puke? Etc.
Why Does Lord Jamar fukk With Eminem?
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Just seen the edit, you not heard Encore no? Lol. Just Loose It, Fack, Puke? Etc.
Nas on Nastradamus which a lot of people diss was nothing like how bad Encore was.
Just loose it? By that point most people (all rap fans) understood that he was a comedian.
Just a google on his video similar to Just loose it.
http://www.hollyscoop.com/eminem/stars-react-to-eminems-we-made-you-music-video.html
People don't hate Chris Rock just cause he makes fun of people, they love him for that fact.
He even makes fun of the president and gets invited to the white house.
But obviously I'm talking about rap fans who understand humor in rap music also I'm talking about Eminem in 2014 after "15" years of proving himself, making people understand him, him understanding what he cannot do and say, apologizing for it etc.. Today, him being pretty wack is the only reason I could "hate" on him for.
I don't think you understand what selling out is. Encore didn't add to his popularity or make him sell more records or make more money or anything. Dude was just on drugs and burnt out and put a shyt record together.
I understand completely what selling out is. He compromised his views. Do you really think Infinite Eminem would have made Just Loose It, Fack and Puke? Lmao.
Infinite didn't sell records and he changed his style after that. Completely irrelevant.
Slim Shady would have made songs like that (although of better quality).
If you want to point to selling out I would look at Recovery and that Survival song
Raping and farting at 30 plus isn't like some incredible humour from a comic genuis...
It's not irrelevant, that's the point, switched style to SELL RECORDS lol. Thanks for making the point. I know your gonna reply and reply and reply and reply on anything on Eminem regardless of what's said lol. So go ahead. Even on Slim Shady he wouldn't of made those records, hence why he didn't.
StretfordRed
Afro-European
Because Jamar is a p*ssy and is afraid of the beat down Em would give him.
He wasn't conforming to any other style or trend on SSLP (whereas Infinite was basically copying Nas/AZ and was a fairly mainstream friendly record in comparison to his later stuff). On SSLP he was still doing his own thing and making fairly unique music. Talking about murder and whatever else isn't exactly the key to selling records and getting airplay (for most artists not named Eminem). I still think you lack an understanding of what selling out is. By your definition anyone who does anything to advance their career is selling out, which is just incorrect. Is a football player who devotes more time to improving, changes their eating routines, changes their workout routines, and studies more game film "selling out?" Em still kept his artistic integrity in tact and still stayed true to his own unique style.
He didn't completely become a different rapper or anything on SSLP either. In fact even on Infinite you can see the beginning of him shaping into the rapper he later became. Maybe evolve would have been a better way to describe him from Infinite to SSLP, rather than "change."
And if you don't think older Eminem wouldn't have made records like what he made on Encore - I suggest you go back and check out songs like
My Name Is
Brain Damage
Cum on Everybody
I'm Shady
As the World Turns
Role Model
The Real Slim Shady
Drug Ballad
The Kids
Low Down Dirty
Any Man
Bad Influence
etc etc
In terms of style and content, Encore is not significantly different from stuff he's done in the past. If you disagree then I don't think you have really listened to Eminem much. The difference is in the quality, not the content or style.
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So he's always been a gimmick and biter even from his first album is what your saying? Infinite wasn't mainstream at all, it was pretty much an underground Hip Hop record. There's a big change after that album... Slim Shady was a shock value gimmick to draw attention.. I don't really get what your talking about, N.W.A sold well and so did others, and that was a large part of their content. No, your manipulating it as I knew you would and will continue to do lol. I have a through understanding of it, and experience in the industry. Your definition of advancement is different from mine, that wasn't an advancement, Eminem Show was better than Encore... There are many ways to sell out, that's what your either not understanding continuing to say anyway. When you betray yourself and your artistic integrity from where you came from or your views that is selling out also. There are many reasons he did it, partly money. LMAO... we're disagreeing on fundamentals, your saying he kept his artistic integrity on Encore, I'm saying he didn't. So agree to disagree on that one.
I wouldn't consider him a biter. He was still trying to find his sound and all rappers learn from and are influenced by the rap that came before them.
And I said it was mainstream friendly. Meaning the style/content and everything would've been perfectly acceptable by a mainstream audience, especially since it pretty much followed the style of Illmatic/Doe or Die and rap had a number of successful lyrical rappers at the time.
Whether he's a gimmick or not is a matter of opinion. You could argue that he is/was.
And you do have a point that there was successful rap music that revolved around violence and non family-friendly content that was highly successful. But I was speaking more in general. If you have a new artist who has 2 types of songs, which do you think labels would prefer to put out and expect more people to gravitate towards?:
1) a club type record and just catchy type of music that will hit a wide audience
2) record about dumping your baby's mom into a lake, slicing off a woman's nipple and raping her, etc
As far as advancing/evolving - I was just referring to his music going from Infinite to SSLP. Obviously Encore was worse than TES.
I still don't see how Encore was selling out. He didn't change his style or content in any significant way (especially if you compare it to his immature music around SSLP), he just put out shyt quality. I think you're letting the horrible quality blind you from the fact that at it's core, Encore is the same goofball music that Em has been doing since he first became popular.
As I already said I don't think you're very familiar Eminem and his career if you think Encore is some crazy left field out of the ordinary record for him. Encore was basically like Hi My Name Is, Real Slim Shady, Without Me, Purple Pills type songs for an entire album.
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this.
its like imagine vanilla ice or marky mark trying to come in and make new rules.
eminem is no 3rd bass, but hes no macklemore either. he came thru paying dues and doesnt get outta pocket.
Quiet Magician
Superstar
Am I the only one tired of these dude mouthing off on Vlad all the time? Its like bashing something in every interview and inspire positivity.