Why does Mugabe get alot of love from some black people?

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First we gotta ask the right questions. Like how much of the economy was agriculturally driven. Which companies were being sanctioned and how much market share did those companies have. How many employees. There are real questions to ask. But questions like those either prove or disprove someone's position.
You live in the US right? If whites were to leave america tomorrow....do you think black americans could maintain the infrastructures that has been built and continue to innovate?
 

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I don't think at any point did africans do large scale farming.

Are you white? Or just a complete ass? Who do you think started agriculture???

And don't ask me any more questions until you answer my questions you keep ignoring... Which was....

And how would you deal with imperialists making unreasonable demands of foreign land ownership? How would you deal with economic sanctions if you don't agree with massively lopsided deals that only serve the interest of European mega corporations to maintain the status quo?
 

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You live in the US right? If whites were to leave america tomorrow....do you think black americans could maintain the infrastructures that has been built and continue to innovate?

We would surely have trouble but the society would change, but yeah, I think we could figure something out given time and freedom. I am confident in black people, unlike you, wench c00n. Either black people learn to eat on their own or they don't and die. I prefer death to slavery, but we all know what you prefer, wench. That's why women control nothing and kneel forever to whatever faq man happens to stand in front of them. Maybe you have become accustomed to the life of an eternal slave; men do not yearn for it. That is why we fight.
 

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You arent using sense coming in here talking shyt for no reason. Its only going to lead to insults and a deconstructive conversation. Wise up.

We're disagreeing on a small point. We dont need to shyt on each other.

I don't see use that in other threads where you post.
 

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Nope. Nope. Nope. They are probably just taking longer to train farmers. It's not lost of knowledge. That's a cop out. If he kicked cacs out and the farms were vacant it takes time to fill those positions and teach the people who take up the responsibility.


Also I'm not well versed on the agriculture sectee in Zimbabwe. I would love of a coli breh in here is privy to any info that could inform me on that. Cause from the basic info posters are typing up. It's not adding up.
Breh it's a lil more complicated than that.
"At the time of independence in 1980, over 40% of the country's farming land was contained within 5,000 white farms. It was claimed that these farms provided 40% of the country's GDP and up to 60% of its foreign earnings".

"Over 3000 white soldiers who assisted in the BSAC takeover of the country were given land grants of 1,200 hectares (3,000 acres) or more, and black people living on the land became tenants. Later, Land Apportionment and Tenure Acts reserved extensive low-rainfall areas for black-only tribal-trust lands and high rainfall areas for white ownership, which gave rise to cases of black people being excluded from their own land"--From wikipedia
White people in Zimbabwe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The black people were basically relegated to the manual labor aspect of farming, not the agricultural, entrepreneurial, or even basic supply chain side of it. The white people owned and profited from the farms and blacks did the actual labor but didn't necessarily have the knowledge or tools to run the machine themselves. Of course this was intentional on the part of the colonizers.
IMO you can't really go 0-100 in a system like that by expelling all the whites w/o dealing with the steep learning curve that comes with it. Smart thing would have been to do a gradual transition process and phase out the colonizers at every part of the chain but I doubt the whites would go for that. All the sanctions and intentionally fukking up of Zimbabwe's economy didn't help either.
 

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Are you white? Or just a complete ass? Who do you think started agriculture???

And don't ask me any more questions until you answer my questions you keep ignoring... Which was....

It doesnt matter who starts its who improve. Africans may have started but they are largely dependent on euro imports. You ask me if I'm white have you stepped out of your block much less been to africa?
 

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You live in the US right? If whites were to leave america tomorrow....do you think black americans could maintain the infrastructures that has been built and continue to innovate?
First humble yourself. Second. I ask questions. Don't get uncomfortable when they are not inline with your point. Third I would have to ask. What are the population statics of Zimbabwe before they started kicking cacs out? Then I would ask if that even remotely reflects that of Zimbabwe. Be more specific because we're talking about a segment of the economy. Agriculture. We would have capacity for 100% of the population of Americas previous and then only need 14%. That could in time become an outrageous surplus.
 

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Breh it's a lil more complicated than that.
"At the time of independence in 1980, over 40% of the country's farming land was contained within 5,000 white farms. It was claimed that these farms provided 40% of the country's GDP and up to 60% of its foreign earnings".

"Over 3000 white soldiers who assisted in the BSAC takeover of the country were given land grants of 1,200 hectares (3,000 acres) or more, and black people living on the land became tenants. Later, Land Apportionment and Tenure Acts reserved extensive low-rainfall areas for black-only tribal-trust lands and high rainfall areas for white ownership, which gave rise to cases of black people being excluded from their own land"--From wikipedia
White people in Zimbabwe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The black people were basically relegated to the manual labor aspect of farming, not the agricultural, entrepreneurial, or even basic supply chain side of it. The white people owned and profited from the farms and blacks did the actual labor but didn't necessarily have the knowledge or tools to run the machine themselves. Of course this was intentional on the part of the colonizers.
IMO you can't really go 0-100 in a system like that by expelling all the whites w/o dealing with the steep learning curve that comes with it. Smart thing would have been to do a gradual transition process and phase out the colonizers at every part of the chain but I doubt the whites would go for that. All the sanctions and intentionally fukking up of Zimbabwe's economy didn't help either.

So you just wait and do other things while people get their farm knowledge up. Cacs do not have a monopoly on fukking knowledge. I can learn to farm right now and Zimbabweans are already farming at previously high levels in some sectors.
 

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First humble yourself. Second. I ask questions. Don't get uncomfortable when they are not inline with your point. Third I would have to ask. What are the population statics of Zimbabwe before they started kicking cacs out? Then I would ask if that even remotely reflects that of Zimbabwe. Be more specific because we're talking about a segment of the economy. Agriculture. We would have capacity for 100% of the population of Americas previous and then only need 14%. That could in time become an outrageous surplus.

You are not the only appointed to aks questions. Anyone can ask questions.
 
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