Half the countries involved in TPP aren't even transparent themselves to their own people.
Theres an inherent blind angle to that agreement in the first place that no one mentions.
Why does Obama support TPP?
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Theres an inherent blind angle to that agreement in the first place that no one mentions.
Remind me again what part of capitalism required the politicians to set up legal and regulatory barriers to protect monopolies that contribute large sums to aforementioned politicians?....i cant seem to find it in my copy of "Laissez faire capitalism for dummies"
All they are doing is increasing the comparative advantage of corporations. Thats perfectly fine in the laws of capitalism. Its allowing corporations to maximize comparative advantage.
They'll employ whichever is cheaper to their bottom line. Just like they prefer to employ those illegal immigrants you rally against. These trade deals have little protection for the average American worker, it sends most power to the higher ups to decide what needs to be done. And that's great if you're a young man trying to get up in the business world but it's terrible for the average joe trying to feed his family. And I guess the argument is they need to adjust to the service based economy but people like Obama need to understand it from the other end.
Illegals shouldn't be in the country.
define average.
because they had SO much power before
Ya'll really mythologize the "average joe" and all these comforts they're supposed to have while forgetting how the rest of the world looks.
You honestly think he doesn't?
You think Obama's not thinking of the pick-up truck driving, plaid laden "middle america" types whose options were slim from birth?
But you can't just tell people, "hey, you work in some easily done, low skill, low education, moderate value shyt that I could train 15 year olds to do but since you live in the USA you think you're entitled to this shyt cause you go to church once a week and want to watch all the same sports games and premium TV you think your coworkers consume as well. In addition to vacation time and all the other things you see other people having. Lets be honest. You know you're not that special, but you need even more padding because you haven't figured the game out and are stuck doing middling bullshyt to raise your kids to go to a state school somewhere."
So thus, we have the world spinning as usual.
What would you prefer?
Illegals shouldn't be here but these same trade deals and corporations you support encourage their usage or sending jobs over to other nations in favor of their own profit. You're view of everything is inevitable will have you living in your own paradoxical world where you're fighting against undocumented workers while supporting trade deals that all but bring them in.Illegals shouldn't be in the country.
define average.
because they had SO much power before
Ya'll really mythologize the "average joe" and all these comforts they're supposed to have while forgetting how the rest of the world looks.
You honestly think he doesn't?
You think Obama's not thinking of the pick-up truck driving, plaid laden "middle america" types whose options were slim from birth?
But you can't just tell people, "hey, you work in some easily done, low skill, low education, moderate value shyt that I could train 15 year olds to do but since you live in the USA you think you're entitled to this shyt cause you go to church once a week and want to watch all the same sports games and premium TV you think your coworkers consume as well. In addition to vacation time and all the other things you see other people having. Lets be honest. You know you're not that special, but you need even more padding because you haven't figured the game out and are stuck doing middling bullshyt to raise your kids to go to a state school somewhere."
So thus, we have the world spinning as usual.
What would you prefer?
All I'm saying is there are two (maybe three) sides to this and just taking a heavy stance on one side blinds to the others. These low skilled people you mention are a large portion of voters and are doing crazy shyt like voting for Trump or deciding to leave the EU with no contingency plans. Obama's basically sacrificing potential wins for eventual amnesia to the situation in the future. Not to mention these trade deals in current form will increase the issues of environmental and income inequality. Basically no candidate up for election is supporting this and Hillary had to back track just to win the primary. There's issues here and it needs to be addressed before it just gets pushed through and makes things worse.
People in here defending TPP now 
Wow you act like theres a choice...pay an american $15/hr with breaks,health insurance and vacation or a vietnamese $1.50/hr flat no insurance no unionwhat do you think they will choose superstar???
Say what?? You think having a phillip morris or Nike headquarters in your country is beneficial to the average person...really ?? i hope youre trolling.
in your myopic view those are the only two options..despite the easily googled fact that small business is the biggest employer in this country so which one are you drugs or ass??? Im just wondering
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Pipe meet dream.
It won't happen because the public would never go for it. Our trade deal with Korea brought about a substantial trade deficit within a year.
Absolutely - because you need to have that neoliberal outlook to feel comfortable with this move.
Now I will say, and hopefully I don't come off hypocritical here, that if TPP was introduced publicly as an extension of military diplomacy and not masked as sound economic policy, I would be all for it.
My rationale here is that if you introduce TPP as nothing more than a DoD program, then the onus is placed back on our economic leaders to make up for the disadvantages created in our local economy. However, with it being laid out as an economic platform, politicians can just write off all of the negative effects as the unforeseen consequences of free market capitalism. Business leaders that reside here in the US will just say, "blah blah blah competition in the global markets." The inevitable loss of blue collar jobs, which serve as a safety net for a vast majority of americans, will be welcomed by white collar professionals who feel blue collar workers are intellectually inferior.
The political elite on the left love the meritocracy myth.
You don't have a job to worry about losing. Stop it.People in here defending TPP now
Yet you're ignoring that any concession to these companies is literally Hitler.
You tell me. You're the one defending a race to the bottom.
I bet everyone's pension is invested in those companies in some shape or form, so yes.
You keep wanting to escape it, but you're plugged in on fundamental levels.
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so which one are you drugs or ass??? Im just wondering
I never said it was binary.
and small business is qualified as "500 employees" in many cases.
C'mon son. Theres corporations that sell special screws with as many workers. Those aren't any where near mom-and-pop shops.
Again, whats the end-goal here?
People need jobs and not everyone is comfortable with examining existentialism or going down that rabbit hole.
Which is it?
Enlightenment? In which everyone doesn't handle the same way or predictably?
Listen you fukking retarded Pujabi, I don't have a job because I'm caring for my moms. Motherfukker, you are a retarded as fukkboy who probably plays with his dikk all day. You ain't nothing but a sand nikka to Hillary. fukk outta here punk phaggot. Sick of dumb motherfukkers like you. Commit dat.
P.S. I'm moving soon phaggot.