Why does Sam Hinkie still have a job?

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Philly can absolutely sign free agents

Theyll have to overpay, but they can sign guys once they decide they wanna commit to getting wins

Embiid was out last year, it would have been dumb to not tank
I'd throw the max at a guy like Jimmy Butler just to see how real the Bulls are about spending money, but other than that, just some nice quality vets that can teach the young guys. They don't need to be pushing for a playoff spot right now.

But if 2-3 years from now, the 2 bigs they picked to be the foundation are doing their thing, free agents aren't gonna give a fukk that 4 years ago they tanked the season or that they got fined 3M for failing to disclose an injury.
 
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How good do you think MCW is?

https://web.archive.org/web/20140801205529/http://www.nbadraft.net/2015mock_draft

If I told you this time last year that the Lakers would get the #2 pick and would be ecstatic that they picked D'Angelo Russell I would've been negged.

better than anyone who'll be available next year outside of the top 3. ESPN is already calling it weak. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draf...3148621/nba-ben-simmons-star-2016-draft-class

other than Ben Simmons, Skal Labessiere, and Brandon Ingram, there aren't any enticing prospects. even those guys aren't that special. all 3 woulda gone after Emmanuel Mudiay if they were in this years draft.
 

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Breh, do you realize that philly goes into next offseason with these 6 guys (if saric comes over) eating up less than 20 mil in cap space and the salary cap is 89 mil? :damn:

you do know there isn't a single free agent worth a damn who'll sign with philly. you got rookies disgusted to join that organization. what makes you think any decent vet wants to be part of that fukkery? the only free agents they'll get are guys they overpay for.

and next years draft is WEAK. even if the lakers pick is in the lottery, it'll probably not net them a player close to MCW's quality.

Something else to add, Agents hate dealing with the Sixers and are steering clients away from interviewing with the team. Between the way they handle 2nd Rounders and the NBAPA investigation, the Sixers are only going to get 10th tier free agents until they show they can put a competent product on the court.
 

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Something else to add, Agents hate dealing with the Sixers and are steering clients away from interviewing with the team. Between the way they handle 2nd Rounders and the NBAPA investigation, the Sixers are only going to get 10th tier free agents until they show they can put a competent product on the court.
Exactly. They've built such a toxic losing culture that nobody wants to go near them. There was a game where MCW didn't get back on defense last year after a miss and gave up a basket. When the coach yelled at him he just went :manny: and pointed at the scoreboard. Teams that try to lose are radioactive. Unless they land a Shaq and then penny type break in the draft I can't see how that team would turn it around anytime soon.
 

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The same people who are like, ":usure: Trust in the process," right now are going to be like, ":yeshrug:" when Hinkie is fired in two years. "Everybody knew he wasn't shyt. :yeshrug:" After he's fired in two years or so, it's going to take another 3 years just took get the stench of his fukkery off the organization. The Sixers are on like an 8 year rebuilding plan when this shyt is all said and done. :mjcry:


Don't let a Hinkieologist cultist fool you into thinking it's all part of some master plan. His "plan" is to draft a transcendent talent in the draft. He will be fired before that happens, though.
 

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The same people who are like, ":usure: Trust in the process," right now are going to be like, ":yeshrug:" when Hinkie is fired in two years. "Everybody knew he wasn't shyt. :yeshrug:" After he's fired in two years or so, it's going to take another 3 years just took get the stench of his fukkery off the organization. The Sixers are on like an 8 year rebuilding plan when this shyt is all said and done. :mjcry:


Don't let a Hinkieologist cultist fool you into thinking it's all part of some master plan. His "plan" is to draft a transcendent talent in the draft. He will be fired before that happens, though.


Lol 100% agree idk how anyone is cosigning him he has only been building at one position
 

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The same people who are like, ":usure: Trust in the process," right now are going to be like, ":yeshrug:" when Hinkie is fired in two years. "Everybody knew he wasn't shyt. :yeshrug:" After he's fired in two years or so, it's going to take another 3 years just took get the stench of his fukkery off the organization. The Sixers are on like an 8 year rebuilding plan when this shyt is all said and done. :mjcry:


Don't let a Hinkieologist cultist fool you into thinking it's all part of some master plan. His "plan" is to draft a transcendent talent in the draft. He will be fired before that happens, though.

Give away every player you have to stock up on centers with a d league team around them brehs. This team is 5-6 years away from being 5-6 years away. He's like a cop who has gone too deep undercover and forgets this. Now he's just out here trying to lose and I HATE the fact that fans in Philadelphia of all cities besides New York seem to buy into this "plan". Nobody has ever won off a long term tanking plan and they never will. Building a losing culture will always make you a loser.
 

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Give away every player you have to stock up on centers with a d league team around them brehs. This team is 5-6 years away from being 5-6 years away. He's like a cop who has gone too deep undercover and forgets this. Now he's just out here trying to lose and I HATE the fact that fans in Philadelphia of all cities besides New York seem to buy into this "plan". Nobody has ever won off a long term tanking plan and they never will. Building a losing culture will always make you a loser.


Exactly. People conveniently act like MCW drafted himself or some shyt. No, Hinkie did. That's one of the problems of building a team strictly through the draft. No one hits on every player. Moreover, I might even buy the Okafor was the BPA position. Okay. But, after that a competent GM would consider all his assets and think, "You know, there might be some diminishing returns setting in going forward at the PF/C positions. I'm going to have to work out these pieces so it's not so disproportionate." Hinkie, an incompetent GM faced with that same scenario (after drafting Okafor) looks at it says, "I know what I'll do -- draft more power forwards and centers :ohhh:." But, but, but he'll flip those for assets. Righhhhhhhhtttttt.

All bumbling fools have their supporters until society overwhemingly deems them a fool, and some still remain devoted. Hinkie has no idea what he is doing.
 

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Exactly. People conveniently act like MCW drafted himself or some shyt. No, Hinkie did. That's one of the problems of building a team strictly through the draft. No one hits on every player. Moreover, I might even buy the Okafor was the BPA position. Okay. But, after that a competent GM would consider all his assets and think, "You know, there might be some diminishing returns setting in going forward at the PF/C positions. I'm going to have to work out these pieces so it's not so disproportionate." Hinkie, an incompetent GM faced with that same scenario (after drafting Okafor) looks at it says, "I know what I'll do -- draft more power forwards and centers :ohhh:." But, but, but he'll flip those for assets. Righhhhhhhhtttttt.

All bumbling fools have their supporters until society overwhemingly deems them a fool, and some still remain devoted. Hinkie has no idea what he is doing.
Not only that but when you have a surplus of good players at one position you likely won't get as much in return for them. He's routinely drafting players with injury concerns. The league should shut him down or at least force them to refund all the season ticket holders. If the Yankees did this there'd legit be pitchforks and torches out on 161st street and I shudder at how ugly it'd get.
 

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It's a great question and one in which Coli experts like @Malta @Captain_Crunch [USER=404]@Brozay & others have been unable to answer. He's in year 3 of a rebuild with scarce assets (who could they trade off PHI and get some value back for), an injury prone lottery pick he drafted last yr & one of the worst teams in the league. I'm not really sure...y'all mean to tell me he couldn't have done like Ainge and got a good coach, traded pieces for picks and stockpiled young talent, being competitive while they build? His continued employment baffles the fukk outta me[/USER]
 

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It's a great question and one in which Coli experts like @Malta @Captain crunch @Brozay & others have been unable to answer. He's in year 3 of a rebuild with scarce assets (who could they trade off PHI and get some value back for), an injury prone lottery pick he drafted last yr & one of the worst teams in the league. I'm not really sure...y'all mean to tell me he couldn't have done like Ainge and got a good coach, traded pieces for picks and stockpiled young talent, being competitive while they build? His continued employment baffles the fukk outta me

Stop taggin me reagrding to this bullshyt :heh:

You never even replied the last time so just :camby:

and LOL @ who could they trade and get value back ... HMM I dunno maybe Okafor & Nerlans :mindblown:
 

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It's a great question and one in which Coli experts like @Malta @Captain crunch @Brozay & others have been unable to answer. He's in year 3 of a rebuild with scarce assets (who could they trade off PHI and get some value back for), an injury prone lottery pick he drafted last yr & one of the worst teams in the league. I'm not really sure...y'all mean to tell me he couldn't have done like Ainge and got a good coach, traded pieces for picks and stockpiled young talent, being competitive while they build? His continued employment baffles the fukk outta me


You focus only on them, what about the Magic, Jazz, Wolves? Were the Sixers supposed to be a contender within 3 years? Also, the Celtics are in a odd position now, they don't have a single franchise level talent and were willing to give up 6 draft picks just to get the 9th pick, if tomorrow the Sixers wanted to trade Okafor to them all those players you're talking about would be on the Sixers. The Celtics are in a position where they are too good to get impact draft picks, but not good enough to take the next step, but that's a good spot to be in according to you?


This season, you argued that the Pacers should make the playoffs over missing them, meanwhile they are going to lose West, are on the verge of trading Hibbert and still lack a wing player to go with George. At least they found a frontcourt player in the draft that has talent, someone they wouldn't have been in position to draft had they made the playoffs like you were saying they should. On the flipside, the Nets who did make the playoffs are assed out :russ:
 
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