Why does the black manosphere use the same talking points as white supremacist

[Hazel Brown]

Because they’re feminist

Black men following red pill and identifying with white men on the basis of manhood are as dumb as black women identifying with feminist on the basis of womanhood


Both groups get roped in because of common struggles with the opposite gender, but we need to develop our own ways of traversing relationship dynamics and leave white people shyt alone

PREACHHHH.

 

[Hazel Brown]

The fact that Kevin Samuels interviewed a latina women. And Cynthia g interviewed a white man. With both parties being interviewed. Was shytting on the opposite gender. And both blk men & women was agreeing, with their anti blk talking point. Tells you everything you need to know. The craziest thing was neither. That white man, or that latina woman. Was married or dating black.

Amen. Both groups are using other races to shyt on their own.

 

[Hazel Brown]

You’re conflating non black American spaces with black American ones. ie fresh and fit c00n babble as if it’s normal or accepted in our culture. Kevin might have towed the line a couple times but white supremacist narratives weren’t his message because he actually was a part of the culture unlike tethers like fresh and fit who proudly have typical anti black American sentiment. Even all that passport babble is not us or part of our culture as you would get clowned for bragging about that shyt. Tommy Curry is us all that other revenge of the nerd “manosphere” shyt is other people who already identified with white supremacy culturally.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Kevin bring a non black Latina on his show to ‘teach’ black women how to keep a man? On some condescending shyt?

Didn’t he say that due to the golden ratio, black women have the least attractive faces.

 

[Iverson_64]

I think a lot of people are out of touch with how much intersection there is between the manosphere and the Alt Right.

Stefan Molyneaux is a White supremacist who considers himself "Red Pilled" and part of the manosphere. He's lead a "Red Pill" podcast centered on dating and relationship advice and venting about women/feminism while being exposed as a broke Cac who leached off his breadwinner wife who's a college professor. There was also a racist Cuban guy who called himself "The Red Pill" and used to always make videos shytting on both Black people and women.

And, if you go on Roosh V forum today, you'll see that it's basically an Alt Right website now in which the grievances towards women transformed into grievances towards minorities. Return Of Kings was trending that way too before it stopped producing content.

Notice how very few of the Black manosphere dudes are vocal against racism and the blatant Alt Right infiltration of the Red Pill. That was actually the turning point for me cause it's clear that most weren't willing to address the elephant in the room because they wanted to seem "based" and keep their content focused on modern women which a number of men of all races have grievances against. And Andrew Tate becoming the face of the current movement is a huge joke too.

I do like some like Kevin Samuels, Rom Wills, and Style OG but the overall movement just feels like a feedback loop of complaining about the same subgroups of women day in and day out. I get that there's frustration and all but it needs to evolve. Let the radical feminists or Thots wallow in their own pity and evolve the manosphere into something more productive for young Black men who follow the content for advice. Stooping to their level is just a waste of time.

And the Black manosphere needs to be more militant because White dudes who have grievances towards women eventually become racist because their studies on "female nature" will eventually evolve into so-called "race realism." They need to gatekeep it more and stop praising dudes like Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, etc. The Black manosphere has a lot of potential to become focused and innovative instead of a constant feedback loop but many of its current "leaders" are just complacent.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Something Something bullet bags & abort your black sons.

Who said that?

You tell me. Because I've literally never heard a single Black woman say a single one of those phrases outside of them getting repeated here. You have to be on fringe-ass cesspools of social media to get any of that, no one with the slightest clout or social relevance in real life says that shyt.

If you want to force yourself to be offended, you can find anything on social media. It's a pretty weak excuse for saying stupid shyt yourself.

 

[Buzzed Lightyear]

You tell me. Because I've literally never heard a single Black woman say a single one of those phrases outside of them getting repeated here. You have to be on fringe-ass cesspools of social media to get any of that, no one with the slightest clout or social relevance in real life says that shyt.

If you want to force yourself to be offended, you can find anything on social media. It's a pretty weak excuse for saying stupid shyt yourself.

I take it you never heard of Cynthia G.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I take it you never heard of Cynthia G.

Who? Not only have I not heard of her, but I just typed "Cynthia G" into google and she doesn't show up on the first page. On the second page I get an instagram page with less than 5,000 followers. That's your boogeyman you justify this dumb shyt with?

You're worried about people who have literally zero impact on anyone's life unless you actively seek them out so you can be offended.

 

[Ish Gibor]

I haven't read the posts in this thread so it could be someone already posted this, but a lot are Republicans and so are a lot WS. Interacting with that group WS, maybe had impact.

And it's ironic, because females in that space also use alt-right rhetoric.

Martin Henson,(Martin X) wrote a wonderful article:

Martin X On Gendered Fascism Against Black Men: Divestors And Femcels Sound Like The Alt-Right

Martin X On Gendered Fascism Against Black Men: Divestors And Femcels Sound Like The Alt-Right

moguldom.com

The Black Female HATE GROUP Everyone Is Ignoring! Who Are The Divestors? - Omowale Afika

 

[Ish Gibor]

I think a lot of people are out of touch with how much intersection there is between the manosphere and the Alt Right.

Stefan Molyneaux is a White supremacist who considers himself "Red Pilled" and part of the manosphere. He's lead a "Red Pill" podcast centered on dating and relationship advice and venting about women/feminism while being exposed as a broke Cac who leached off his breadwinner wife who's a college professor. There was also a racist Cuban guy who called himself "The Red Pill" and used to always make videos shytting on both Black people and women.

And, if you go on Roosh V forum today, you'll see that it's basically an Alt Right website now in which the grievances towards women transformed into grievances towards minorities. Return Of Kings was trending that way too before it stopped producing content.

Notice how very few of the Black manosphere dudes are vocal against racism and the blatant Alt Right infiltration of the Red Pill. That was actually the turning point for me cause it's clear that most weren't willing to address the elephant in the room because they wanted to seem "based" and keep their content focused on modern women which a number of men of all races have grievances against. And Andrew Tate becoming the face of the current movement is a huge joke too.

I do like some like Kevin Samuels, Rom Wills, and Style OG but the overall movement just feels like a feedback loop of complaining about the same subgroups of women day in and day out. I get that there's frustration and all but it needs to evolve. Let the radical feminists or Thots wallow in their own pity and evolve the manosphere into something more productive for young Black men who follow the content for advice. Stooping to their level is just a waste of time.

And the Black manosphere needs to be more militant because White dudes who have grievances towards women eventually become racist because their studies on "female nature" will eventually evolve into so-called "race realism." They need to gatekeep it more and stop praising dudes like Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, etc. The Black manosphere has a lot of potential to become focused and innovative instead of a constant feedback loop but many of its current "leaders" are just complacent.

History of the Incel:

“Incel violence as a new terrorism threat: A brief investigation between Alt-Right and Manosphere dimensions“
Vol. 11 No. 2 (2022): Vol. 11 No. 2 | Sortuz: Oñati Journal of Emergent Socio-Legal Studies

From the NTAC report :

“Origins of the “Incel” Label
In the late 1990s, a Canadian woman created an Internet peer support forum for people who wanted a sexual relationship but were unable to find a partner. It was intended to be a safe place to seek support for those who felt sexually deprived due to social awkwardness, marginalization, or mental illness. She popularized the term “involuntary celibacy” as a nonjudgmental way for lonely people to identify as a group. Over time, the term would be shortened to “incel.” This forum, along with similar communities, was intended to be positive and focused on providing support for overcoming one’s “incel” status.

As the community grew, the ideas expressed in the forums changed and by the early 2000s, some of the more dominant voices were young heterosexual men with vindictive and aggressive views toward women. Though the original developer took down her website, the community continued to spread across other forums.

Today, the term “incel” is often used to describe men who feel unable to obtain romantic or sexual relationships with women, to which they feel entitled. The term is used to describe one online subculture that exists within the “manosphere” – a network of blogs and forums frequented by groups including incels, men’s rights activists (MRAs), Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), and pickup artists (PUAs). Although these groups are known to promote male-dominant views, some members express extreme ideologies involving anti-woman hate, sexual objectification of women, and calls for violence targeting women.”.

New Secret Service report details growing incel terrorism threat

Since 2014, attacks inspired by the "incel movement" and spanning the U.S. and Canada have left dozens dead.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Ish Gibor]

Before he got big Kevin Samuels use to do shows with that Anthony Logan Bryan guy on some "us black republicans are not a monolith" shyt

Anthony claimed that his grandmother received gifts from the KKK every Christmas.

The Amazing Lucas commentary.



“The Destiny Anthony Brian Logan debate in a nutshell (quick meme, language warning)”



The entire debate.

 

[Mindfield333]

Yeah, I’ve never seen the black manosphere get as bad as that. The only thing they’re guilty of is bragging about third world prostitutes and making fools of themselves online, and that’s just a bunch of middle aged dorks. Black women online have basically become female 4cacers

Meanwhile there is/was a thread about a YouTube video about a tiktok video about a black woman basically calling us inferior to other races of men and most of the thread and the comment section inside that video was agreeing with her. It was sad to see.

Yeah Divesters more brutal with their words… but let’s be real, they ain’t about to harm you like a man will.

 

[Mowgli]

Would you stop eating fruity pebbles if a white supremecost said he liked them?

If a white supremacists favorite basketball team was the Lakers and his favorite player was lebron James would you hate lebron?

"Welfare queen single black mothers are responsible for black men becoming criminals"

"Black women only want thugged out pookies with swag"

"Black society is pathologically dysfunctional and a lost cause"

"Black people don't value education and us productive black men have to get our passport"

"As more black men date out and have mixed babies the pathologically of black culture will decrease"


shyt started off as a much needed response to anti black male misandry and used legitimate scholars like Tommy Curry to refute the bullshyt. But is has rapidly descended into nikka nerd c00n babble. These nikkas have become the mirror image of these disturbed divestors.

 

[jilla82]

why do most black people use the same talking points as college educated white people that are in the top 10% of earners?

 

[Stuntone]

Would you stop eating fruity pebbles if a white supremecost said he liked them?

If a white supremacists favorite basketball team was the Lakers and his favorite player was lebron James would you hate lebron?

Exactly, the truth is the truth no matter who's telling it.

 

[Mowgli]

Exactly, the truth is the truth no matter who's telling it.

It's still fukk them cacs though.