Why does this subforum constantly align itself with white supremacy and c00ns simply for talking points?

[Everythingg]

So you’re not interested in material change you’re interested in only improving the lives of a select few is what I’m reading? Which is all fine and good but if you think that’s all it takes to improve the lives of millions of black people you’re completely delusional and have no real idea of what it actually takes to uplift and improve the lives of people.

Do you now understand why white supremacists push personal responsibility doctrine? They understand is a losing game because the group as whole will never succeed that way

Millions of black people approaching it from the local level instead of pretending it has to be under 1 umbrella would take care of millions as well. Because It’s all about the mindset. It definitely ain’t about going to a young black boy and telling him his path to success can only be accomplished with the help of people who have been oppressing his people for centuries.

Cacs push self accountability to deter people from looking at the active roadblocks he put up in the way of black people. That doesn’t mean that it’s not true. A cac can help me succeed but I’d be damned if I said I NEED them to succeed.

Of course people towing the political lines will ignore this because that doesn’t get their side into a seat of power

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Millions of black people approaching it from the local level instead of pretending it has to be under 1 umbrella would take care of millions as well. Because It’s all about the mindset. It definitely ain’t about going to a young black boy and telling him his path to success can only be accomplished with the help of people who have been oppressing his people for centuries.

Cacs push self accountability to deter people from looking at the active roadblocks he put up in the way of black people. That doesn’t mean that it’s not true. A cac can help me succeed but I’d be damned if I said I NEED them to succeed.

Of course people towing the political lines will ignore this because that doesn’t get their side into a seat of power

Ok so you would need a centralized voice to speak to millions of black people at once kinda like a government….. like I said that’s all well and good but what you want is pretty much impossible. You can shyt on the political system but the best way for wide spread material change would be getting black people into office across the country with progressive ideals. That’s it

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Why are there constantly murder threads posted in TLR… reminds me a lot of this article

Police Departments Spend Vast Sums of Money Creating “Copaganda”

US police departments spend tens of millions of dollars every year to manipulate the news, flooding the discourse with “copaganda.” These aggressive tactics give the public a distorted view of what public safety means, what threatens it, and how to solve it.

jacobin.com

 

[Tha_Mac]

Bc the average straight black person is a conservative. We just don’t like racism.


Y’all expect black people to support all that fruity, new shyt just bc it came from “non racist” white ppl

I would be labeled liberal but I don't support that gay stuff. I am straight and I do believe in climate change and the effect it's having on the planet, I don't think assault rifles should be in civilian hands, I believe there should be a $15.00 minimum wage nation wide, and I believe women should have the right to choose what they do with their bodies. That's only some of my positions.

You mean to tell me just because you disagree with the gay stuff that everything else I listed you are against?

I ask because most conservatives do.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

You all can't keep putting your fingers in your ears just because you don't like the messenger. But the messenger is really nothing more than a scapegoat. The real issue is the message itself. I don't know how many times I've seen posters on here with militant/pro black credentials stray a tad too far off of the "systemic racism" road and get hit with the c00n label.

I mean @Matt504 can tell you himself. You all loved #inherently but not so much his later work. So no it's not just retweets and sources, it's the message itself. Many of you all just don't want to have the discussion at all.

I bet if some c00n or alt right clown used fuzzy logic to put a 100k check in your hand, proceeds of the culture war, you wouldn't have shyt to say but, "thank you, sir." All that self righteous shyt goes out of the window when it's time for you to benefit. Look at Logical Fallacies; the so called egg head crew from HL lived and died by them until they got hit with a violation, then the juezling begins.

This site is a lot of things but none of what you all seem to believe.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

The funny thing about a broken clock is right twice a day is that nobody ever goes to the store and asks for broken clocks.

Because why use a broken clock at all?

The problem is that we don't even want to acknowledge what time it is.

 

[Everythingg]

Ok so you would need a centralized voice to speak to millions of black people at once kinda like a government….. like I said that’s all well and good but what you want is pretty much impossible. You can shyt on the political system but the best way for wide spread material change would be getting black people into office across the country with progressive ideals. That’s it

Nothing is more impossible than suggesting black people infiltrate a govt and steer it to work for their advancement after working centuries towards their disenfranchisement.

It’s a lot easier to just turn around and tell black people “work together for your progression” but doing that doesn’t get your people into the power seat which is why you denounce doing so.

I’d never go to a young black boy and tell them they can’t succeed without cacs yet you want to tell that to the whole community that. Very pitiful stance

 

[Reflected]

Why are there constantly murder threads posted in TLR… reminds me a lot of this article

Police Departments Spend Vast Sums of Money Creating “Copaganda”

US police departments spend tens of millions of dollars every year to manipulate the news, flooding the discourse with “copaganda.” These aggressive tactics give the public a distorted view of what public safety means, what threatens it, and how to solve it.

jacobin.com

Actually insane, because you typically only encounter that in white supremacist and adjacent corners, they do it with the intention of slowly planting the seed of "black people are inherently violent", which works on the apolitical person who is being drip-fed constant violent articles involving black people. This is a big country and I can easily do the same for whites, and have it done on an hourly basis, shorter if I really want to. So it's odd to see black people playing into it... I mean, it's not really odd when you consider what's likely going on, but if it were me, I would ban that nonsense, it's rarely ever handled in a productive manner, and the typical rhetoric is indistinguishable from race realism rhetoric.

I will say this again, the right is winning all of these easy culture war games, the people are too stupid to see past it.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Nothing is more impossible than suggesting black people infiltrate a govt and steer it to work for their advancement after working centuries towards their disenfranchisement.

It’s a lot easier to just turn around and tell black people “work together for your progression” but doing that doesn’t get your people into the power seat which is why you denounce doing so.

I’d never go to a young black boy and tell them they can’t succeed without cacs yet you want to tell that to the whole community that. Very pitiful stance

Your not making any sense. Especially the part about “ your people in power”. Leftists ideology revolves around improving the material conditions for 99% of people in the country.

I honestly don’t think you have idea what you actually want to do that can actually work. You keep saying “your people” as if someone is here working against black people. You don’t even have real answers to these problems yet act as if someone with a realistic path that revolves around putting black Americans in seats of power at a local level is somehow a nefarious plan vs your strongly worded crap that does absolutely nothing plan.

You also keep twisting my words around and it’s getting old. You’re not actually having this conversation in good faith at all

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Actually insane, because you typically only encounter that in white supremacist and adjacent corners, they do it with the intention of slowly planting the seed of "black people are inherently violent", which works on the apolitical person who is being drip-fed constant violent articles involving black people. This is a big country and I can easily do the same for whites, and have it done on an hourly basis, shorter if I really want to. So it's odd to see black people playing into it... I mean, it's not really odd when you consider what's likely going on, but if it were me, I would ban that nonsense, it's rarely ever handled in a productive manner, and the typical rhetoric is indistinguishable from race realism rhetoric.

I will say this again, the right is winning all of these easy culture war games, the people are too stupid to see past it.

The post you made in the most recent great posted like that was solid. All these threads just create outrage. There’s never any realistic discussion about how to stop crime. It always devolves into right propaganda about “personal responsibility” and wanting to commit barbaric acts against those who commit crimes at all.

 

[1thouwow]

This is a lie

Black men and women are the two most progressive and left leaning demographics in this country

How so

 

[GMoney]

Why is this same thread made every week? Why do the OP's never affirm their politics in these threads either?

It's like asking why are there so many PAWG threads in TLR, it's obvious, dudes in here like discussing PAWGS. lol

 

[1thouwow]

I would be labeled liberal but I don't support that gay stuff. I am straight and I do believe in climate change and the effect it's having on the planet, I don't think assault rifles should be in civilian hands, I believe there should be a $15.00 minimum wage nation wide, and I believe women should have the right to choose what they do with their bodies. That's only some of my positions.

You mean to tell me just because you disagree with the gay stuff that everything else I listed you are against?

I ask because most conservatives do.

No. But I’m not willing to put up a battle for the pro or con of abortion. And I’m not fighting for nikkas working high school jobs that make $15 an hour.



But I do believe in corps paying taxes. And protecting the environment is cool, IF it makes sense

 

[EARFQUAKE]

Why is this same thread made every week? Why do the OP's never affirm their politics in these threads either?

It's like asking why are there so many PAWG threads in TLR, it's obvious, dudes in like discussing PAWGS. lol

White supremacy is not exclusively political.

 

[Reflected]

The post you made in the most recent great posted like that was solid. All these threads just create outrage. There’s never any realistic discussion about how to stop crime. It always devolves into right propaganda about “personal responsibility” and wanting to commit barbaric acts against those who commit crimes at all.

Yeah, the "personal responsibility" nonsense is at the core of so many dumb ideas, it's honestly painful as hell to even engage with someone on that issue. Truth is, the higher you go in academia associated with the fields that consider personal responsibility, philosophy for example, the less and less you see it as ever playing a factor in decision making. Now I'm biased as a determinist, but just in my experience, you will be hard pressed convincing anyone otherwise, especially religious people, as libertarian free will is the foundation of the Abrahamic approach.

People need more philosophy, that is something I will always continue to push but it needs to come early, because one irony is that I don't think these adults are reachable, and by that, I mean the amount of effort needed just isn't worth it. Instead I think better forms of reasoning and engagement with philosophy should be done around the time someone enters high school, even though, another irony, is that it's suggested through brain development, that adults are supposed to be the best equipped to handle these subjects. Problem is, they lack the tools, and when those tools are at complete odds with their seemingly concrete worldview, good luck ever convincing them otherwise, it's like arguing with a wall.


Also, that other guy you are arguing with above is a flat earther as well. Some people are truly doomed.